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Re: your fire is undetermined we are not paying
Posted by: Batt201 (IP Logged)
Date: September 20, 2017 04:36PM

This brings up the old question about intent. If you have a kitchen fire, and by all accounts it appears to be an accidental fire, i.e. burner left on, insured admits to forgetting about the operating burner, do you classify it as accidental or undetermined? What if you classify it as accidental and then you find out later that the insured had prior to the fire event, companies come out and give estimates for a kitchen remodel? Does that change your opinion as to the classification? It may be just a coincidence, but I think most of us in this field are not big fans of coincidences.

I know several investigators who leave certain fires that are a result of a human act undetermined for just this reason. So long story short, I can see a claim being denied based upon and undetermined classification on the part of the investigator. However, if the insurance company can't classify the fire other than undetermined, I do not see how they can deny the claim unless there is some verbiage in the policy that I'm not aware of. It is my opinion, which isn't worth much, that the insurance company is definitely opening themselves up for a bad faith claim.



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  Re: your fire is undetermined we are not paying 1519 John Lentini 08/25/2017 10:58AM
  Re: your fire is undetermined we are not paying 1338 Fire 08/25/2017 04:26PM
  Re: your fire is undetermined we are not paying 1225 ChrisRicci 08/27/2017 09:51PM
  Re: your fire is undetermined we are not paying 1224 Fire 08/28/2017 05:04PM
  Re: your fire is undetermined we are not paying 1274 mageeelect 08/29/2017 12:56PM
  Re: your fire is undetermined we are not paying 1273 Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant 08/29/2017 01:28PM
  Re: your fire is undetermined we are not paying 1136 Fire 08/31/2017 07:54PM
  Re: your fire is undetermined we are not paying 1103 Fire 09/08/2017 08:51PM
  Re: your fire is undetermined we are not paying 1084 dcarpenter 09/09/2017 09:06AM
  Re: your fire is undetermined we are not paying 1131 Batt201 09/20/2017 04:36PM
  Re: your fire is undetermined we are not paying 1065 Sir Gary 09/21/2017 08:01AM
  Re: your fire is undetermined we are not paying 941 Fire 10/11/2017 03:14PM
  Re: your fire is undetermined we are not paying 767 accelk9 07/02/2018 01:49PM
  Re: your fire is undetermined we are not paying 813 cda 07/02/2018 04:03PM
  Re: your fire is undetermined we are not paying 788 accelk9 07/05/2018 04:49PM
  Re: your fire is undetermined we are not paying 781 cda 07/06/2018 07:41PM
  Re: your fire is undetermined we are not paying 779 J L Mazerat 07/07/2018 09:17AM
  Re: your fire is undetermined we are not paying 807 John Lentini 07/07/2018 04:09PM


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