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      <title>[Fire/Arson Investigations] Re: Flammablility of vinyl siding</title>
      <link>http://www.forumworld.com/arson-investigations/read.php?3,17153,17160#msg-17160</link>
      <author>arsnman4</author>
      <description><![CDATA[[quote] “This standard is used to measure and describe the response of materials, products, or assemblies to heat and flame under controlled conditions, but does not by itself incorporate all factors required for fire-hazard or fire-risk assessment of the materials, products, or assemblies under actual fire conditions.”[/quote] 

Thanks for that Pat since most don’t know that when using the standards for references in official statements.

[quote]Does anyone know of any code[/quote]

Here is a [b]free[/b] link to the building codes dating back to the legacy dissolvent:
http://publicecodes.citation.com/icod/ibc/2012/icod_ibc_2012_14_sec005_par039.htm]]></description>
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      <title>[Fire/Arson Investigations] Re: Flammablility of vinyl siding</title>
      <link>http://www.forumworld.com/arson-investigations/read.php?3,17153,17159#msg-17159</link>
      <author>dcarpenter</author>
      <description><![CDATA[More ...

Dietenberger, M. A.

    Ignitability Analysis of Siding Materials Using Modified Protocol for LIFT Apparatus.
    Forest Products Lab., Madison, WI
    Interscience Communications Limited. Fire and Materials. 3rd International Conference and Exhibition. October 27-28, 1994, Arlington, VA, 259-268 pp, 1994.

Dietenberger, M. A.

    Ignitability Analysis of Siding Materials Using Modified Protocol for LIFT Apparatus.
    Forest Products Lab., Madison, WI
    Product Safety Corporation. International Conference on Fire Safety, 20th. Volume 20. Proceedings. January 9-13, 1995, Millbrae, CA, Product Safety Corp., Sunnyvale, CA, 297-306 pp, 1995.]]></description>
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      <title>[Fire/Arson Investigations] Re: Flammablility of vinyl siding</title>
      <link>http://www.forumworld.com/arson-investigations/read.php?3,17153,17158#msg-17158</link>
      <author>dcarpenter</author>
      <description><![CDATA[These publications may also be of interest to you, in that, they may include test data on the fire performance of residential siding:

Grand, A. F.

    Investigation of the Effectiveness of Fire Resistant Durable Agents on Residential Siding Using an ICAL-Based Testing Protocol.
    Omega Point Laboratories, San Antonio, TX
    National Institute of Standards and Technology, Gaithersburg, MD
    NIST GCR 00-792; 152 p. May 2000.
    AVAILABLE FROM National Technical Information Service (NTIS), Technology Administration, U.S. Department of Commerce, Springfield, VA 22161. Telephone: 1-800-553-6847 or 703-605-6000; Fax: 703-605-6900. Website: http://www.ntis.gov
    PB2000-106029

Grand, A. F.; Mehrafza, M.

    Evaluation of Spray-On, Non-Permanent, Fire Retardant Agents for Residential Siding.
    Omega Point Laboratories, Inc., Elmendorf, TX
    National Institute of Standards and Technology, Gaithersburg, MD
    Recent Advances in Flame Retardancy of Polymeric Materials: Materials, Applications, Research and Industry Developments, Markets. Volume 12. Business Communications Co., Inc. (BCC). May 21-23, 2001, Stamford, CT, Business Communications Co., Inc., Norwalk, CT, Lewin, M., Editor, 227-236 pp, 2001.
    FOR MORE INFORMATION CONTACT: Business Communications Co., Inc., 25 Van Zant Street, Norwalk, CT 06855 USA. Telephone: 203-853-4266, Fax: 203-853-0348, Email: sales@bccresearch.com Website: http://www.bccresearch.com

Norman, J.

    Exterior Fire Spread.
    New York City Fire Dept., NY
    Firehouse, Vol. 19, No. 3, 16-18, March 1994.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 15:58:16 +0200</pubDate>
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      <title>[Fire/Arson Investigations] Re: Flammablility of vinyl siding</title>
      <link>http://www.forumworld.com/arson-investigations/read.php?3,17153,17157#msg-17157</link>
      <author>MRK</author>
      <description><![CDATA[You may want to call the AHJ to determine what the local code requirements are. As crazy as it seems - there may not be a code requirement for siding depending on the substrate and/or construction type.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 14:03:49 +0200</pubDate>
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      <title>[Fire/Arson Investigations] Re: Flammablility of vinyl siding</title>
      <link>http://www.forumworld.com/arson-investigations/read.php?3,17153,17156#msg-17156</link>
      <author>PMK140</author>
      <description><![CDATA[ASTM E84 - 12 Standard Test Method for Surface Burning Characteristics of Building Materials 

ASTM E119, Standard Test Methods for Fire Tests of Building Construction and Materials 

ASTM E84, Standard Test Method for Surface Burning Characteristics of Building Materials

ASTM D3679 – 11, Standard Specification for Rigid Poly(Vinyl Chloride) (PVC) Siding

FM Approval Standard 4880 - Approval Standard for Class 1 Fire Rating of Insulated Wall or Wall and Roof/Ceiling Panels, interior Finish Materials or and Exterior Wall Systems

Beware of ASTM E 84.  It is a relatively old test which compares the relative rates of flame spread for materials which are supported horizontally on the ceiling of a 24 ft. long, 20 in. wide tunnel and ignited from below at one end.  It is intended to provide only comparative measurements of surface flame spread and smoke density measurements with that of select grade red oak and fiber-cement board surfaces under the specific fire exposure conditions.  It does not give actual flame spread for materials which are burned with concurrent flame spread vertically from the bottom.

It is also important to remember that all ASTM fire test standards include the following caveat:

“This standard is used to measure and describe the response of materials, products, or assemblies to heat and flame under controlled conditions, but does not by itself incorporate all factors required for fire-hazard or fire-risk assessment of the materials, products, or assemblies under actual fire conditions.”]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 13:41:54 +0200</pubDate>
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      <title>[Fire/Arson Investigations] Re: Flammablility of vinyl siding</title>
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      <author>Fire</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Mark 

Thanks for the info.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 06:13:59 +0200</pubDate>
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      <title>[Fire/Arson Investigations] Re: Flammablility of vinyl siding</title>
      <link>http://www.forumworld.com/arson-investigations/read.php?3,17153,17154#msg-17154</link>
      <author>Mark Goodson</author>
      <description><![CDATA[ASFM D 2843 for the Oxygen Index. 
UL 723.  Surface burning characteristics of building materials 

The second test is also ASTM E 84, the Steiner tunnel]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 05:31:56 +0200</pubDate>
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      <title>[Fire/Arson Investigations] Flammablility of vinyl siding</title>
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      <author>Fire</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Does anyone know of any code or standard in regards to flame spread on vinyl siding. Have a fire in some condos.  Have video of fire and fire spread very quickly once it transferred to the vertical position on the siding.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 03:47:14 +0200</pubDate>
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      <title>[AutoFires] Acura recall for p/s fluid leak</title>
      <link>http://www.forumworld.com/arson-investigations/read.php?2,17152,17152#msg-17152</link>
      <author>Rick Metzger</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Honda's Acura brand is recalling 56,881 TL sedans from model years 2007 and 2008 in North America to replace a power steering hose that could leak over time and potentially cause a fire.

The recall affects 52,615 TL sedans in the U.S. and another 4,266 in Canada, the Japanese automaker said.

Acura said the hose may deteriorate and leak over time. Leaking fluid could lead to a loss of power steering assistance or could cause smoke and fire, the Japanese automaker said.

Acura said no crashes, injuries or fires have been reported related to the issue.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 19:19:47 +0200</pubDate>
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      <title>[RECALL LISTINGS] Acura recall for p/s fluid leak</title>
      <link>http://www.forumworld.com/arson-investigations/read.php?9,17151,17151#msg-17151</link>
      <author>Rick Metzger</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Honda's Acura brand is recalling 56,881 TL sedans from model years 2007 and 2008 in North America to replace a power steering hose that could leak over time and potentially cause a fire.

The recall affects 52,615 TL sedans in the U.S. and another 4,266 in Canada, the Japanese automaker said.

Acura said the hose may deteriorate and leak over time. Leaking fluid could lead to a loss of power steering assistance or could cause smoke and fire, the Japanese automaker said.

Acura said no crashes, injuries or fires have been reported related to the issue.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 19:18:54 +0200</pubDate>
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      <title>[Fire/Arson Investigations] Re: IFE</title>
      <link>http://www.forumworld.com/arson-investigations/read.php?3,17121,17149#msg-17149</link>
      <author>arsnman4</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Just an FYI....according to the program administrator, one may not reference a professional credential document(s) in sections 6-11 of the US application....I asked:  

[quote] No. Begin listing in the space provided and continue on additional page(s) if needed[/quote]

I'll be looking for a couple of sponsors when I finally decide to fill it all out with certifications and continuing ed.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 22:00:59 +0200</pubDate>
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      <title>[Fire/Arson Investigations] Check List to Document the Condition of a Gas Furnace</title>
      <link>http://www.forumworld.com/arson-investigations/read.php?3,17148,17148#msg-17148</link>
      <author>Dennis Merkley</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Anyone got a protocol they use to check the components of a gas furnace to determine whether it may have been cause or consequences of the fire?]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 17:42:29 +0200</pubDate>
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      <title>[Fire/Arson Investigations] Re: self extinguishing cigatettes</title>
      <link>http://www.forumworld.com/arson-investigations/read.php?3,17116,17147#msg-17147</link>
      <author>Fire</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I have heard that not all of the cigs in a box are the fire safe cigs is this true.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 04:34:39 +0200</pubDate>
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      <title>[Fire/Arson Investigations] Re: IFE</title>
      <link>http://www.forumworld.com/arson-investigations/read.php?3,17121,17146#msg-17146</link>
      <author>Fire</author>
      <description><![CDATA[George 

I agree I have done so as well. It may look daunting but not when you get into it. You can reference things to your CV by page but will need all copies of certs to move forward. It is not that hard to do getting all the paperwork in is the hard part.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 04:32:01 +0200</pubDate>
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      <title>[Fire/Arson Investigations] Re: SC and Dryers</title>
      <link>http://www.forumworld.com/arson-investigations/read.php?3,17136,17145#msg-17145</link>
      <author>Fire</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Mr. Fold

If you still have access to the washer you can take a sample of the water out of the washer pump and that will tell you if you had oils/fats that you are looking for.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 04:20:41 +0200</pubDate>
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      <title>[Fire/Arson Investigations] Re: Signing Off</title>
      <link>http://www.forumworld.com/arson-investigations/read.php?3,17039,17144#msg-17144</link>
      <author>Fire</author>
      <description><![CDATA[ted 
i am from the capital of the south]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 21:40:55 +0200</pubDate>
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      <title>[Fire/Arson Investigations] Re: SC and Dryers</title>
      <link>http://www.forumworld.com/arson-investigations/read.php?3,17136,17143#msg-17143</link>
      <author>John J. Lentini, CFEI</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Polyunsaturated fatty acids to not only come from cooking oils. They can come from skin lotions and other products.

I have worked a couple of spontaneous heating dryer fires in health spas.

I am surprised that the chemist gave you a quantitative value, as these do not often have much meaning in this context. The amount of unsaturation also doesn't have a lot of meaning in this context because it is the reaction that oxidizes the double bonds that gives off the heat, so what is found after a fire does not necessarily represent what was present before the fire.

Finally, just finding the animal or vegetable oils doesn't mean that spontaneous heating did happen--it only means that it could have happened. The finding of fatty acids is consistent with the hypothesis that the fire was caused by spontaneous heating. Frequently, in drum fires, some of the safety devices survive and are capable of being tested.

P.S.: What flavor of religion prohibits vegetable oils?]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 18:23:31 +0200</pubDate>
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      <title>[Fire/Arson Investigations] Re: Sixth Circuit Reiterates Standards for Expert Witness Admissibility</title>
      <link>http://www.forumworld.com/arson-investigations/read.php?3,17138,17142#msg-17142</link>
      <author>Mark Goodson</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Here's the link which is free

http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca6/10-3912/10-3912-2012-04-03.pdf


This is a forklift design case, and the questions regard risk / utility in terms of the design theory being proffered.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 17:48:11 +0200</pubDate>
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      <title>[Fire/Arson Investigations] Re: To IAAI Directors and NAFI Management</title>
      <link>http://www.forumworld.com/arson-investigations/read.php?3,17137,17141#msg-17141</link>
      <author>PMK140</author>
      <description><![CDATA[ISFI 2012 still has available both exhibition space and abstracts from potential presenters are sill being accepted for review.

http://www.isficonference.com/]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 17:42:45 +0200</pubDate>
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      <title>[Fire/Arson Investigations] Re: Sixth Circuit Reiterates Standards for Expert Witness Admissibility</title>
      <link>http://www.forumworld.com/arson-investigations/read.php?3,17138,17140#msg-17140</link>
      <author>PMK140</author>
      <description><![CDATA[So what's new about this?]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 17:33:15 +0200</pubDate>
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      <title>[Fire/Arson Investigations] Re: To IAAI Directors and NAFI Management</title>
      <link>http://www.forumworld.com/arson-investigations/read.php?3,17137,17139#msg-17139</link>
      <author>PMK140</author>
      <description><![CDATA[That's fine with me, Carter. 

To my knowledge NAFI certainly does not find your fledgling group a threat, only an enigma, completely lacking in transparency.

The extent to which your for-profit organization will succeed or fail in holding itself out as &quot;the premier fire investigation research&quot; venue is yet to been seen.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 17:30:47 +0200</pubDate>
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      <title>[Fire/Arson Investigations] Sixth Circuit Reiterates Standards for Expert Witness Admissibility</title>
      <link>http://www.forumworld.com/arson-investigations/read.php?3,17138,17138#msg-17138</link>
      <author>Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Sixth Circuit Reiterates Standards for Expert Witness Admissibility

http://judicialview.com/Court-Cases/Torts/Newell-Rubbermaid-Inc.-v-Raymond-Corporation/44/432777]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 16:57:48 +0200</pubDate>
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      <title>[Fire/Arson Investigations] To IAAI Directors and NAFI Management</title>
      <link>http://www.forumworld.com/arson-investigations/read.php?3,17137,17137#msg-17137</link>
      <author>Carter Roberts</author>
      <description><![CDATA[As time goes by, most of you will realize that the International Fire Investigation Research Institute (IFIRI) will not harm either the IAAI or the NAFI.  I am a member of both associations and hold certifications with both.  I plan to keep my certifications current and to remain an active member of each organization.

Further learning and training does no harm and is beneficial to all fire and forensic experts.  There is much less to fear from outside competition than from inside inefficiency, discourtesy and bad service.

The IFIRI will provide insurance companies with meaningful certifications that will uniquely help them vet their forensic experts.  One of our certifications will require one to already be a Certified Fire Investigator (CFI) or a Certified Fire &amp; Explosion Investigator (CFEI) before applying for certification as a Forensic Fire Investigator.  IFIRI is your friend, not your enemy.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 16:09:06 +0200</pubDate>
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      <title>[Fire/Arson Investigations] SC and Dryers</title>
      <link>http://www.forumworld.com/arson-investigations/read.php?3,17136,17136#msg-17136</link>
      <author>William Fold</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I am reviewing a dryer fire. The chemist has determined that there is .6 % hexane extractible material, for which GC/MS identified as being polyunsaturated fatty acids (vegetable oil). The pertinent question is as to whether this  signifies that spontaneous heating took place sufficient to cause a fire.

The reason for the question, besides the obvious, is that there have been dryer fires for which such polyunsatutrated fatty acids were found, but for houesholds that had no vegetable oil. The persons in one case were of Asian descent, and for religious / dietary reasons used no such materials. They were more than a bit peeved with the chemist; an inspection of their kitchen failed to find anything that could be confused with vegetable oil. The items being dried were several dog sweaters, and the dogs were indoor pets - not like they had been rolling where they shouldn't.

Anyone care to comment? 

Thank you]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 16:02:20 +0200</pubDate>
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      <title>[Fire/Arson Investigations] Re: IFireE</title>
      <link>http://www.forumworld.com/arson-investigations/read.php?3,17121,17135#msg-17135</link>
      <author>PMK140</author>
      <description><![CDATA[The Institution of Fire Engineers was founded in 1918 in the United Kingdom to promote, encourage, and improve the science and practice of Fire Engineering, Fire Prevention, and Fire Extinction, and all operations and expedients connected therewith, and to give impetus to ideas likely to be useful in connection with or in relation to such science and practice to the members of the Institution and to the community at-large.  The United States of America Branch, founded in 1996, continues the tradition.  To be elected to membership in this prestigious group is a feather in one's cap and an indication of one's knowledge and expertise.

http://www.ife-usa.org/

As you may have already noted, the application process is lengthy and comprehensive.

IFireE has long been one of the co-sponsoring professional organizations for NAFI and NFPA’s International Symposia on Fire Investigation Science and Technology (ISFI).

http://www.isficonference.com/

Many very prominent engineers, scientists, educators, public service professionals and investigators in the fire field hold one of the various honorific degrees offered by the IFireE, including a number who frequently post here on the forum.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 23:14:24 +0200</pubDate>
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      <title>[Fire/Arson Investigations] Re: Signing Off</title>
      <link>http://www.forumworld.com/arson-investigations/read.php?3,17039,17134#msg-17134</link>
      <author>arsnman4</author>
      <description><![CDATA[[quote]I urge everyone who wants to be taken seriously on this forum to do so as well.[/quote]

Ok you inspired me Ted &amp; Pat so I changed mine also and it's not hard to figure out who I am anyway....besides I'll be teaching a class in Green Bay in a few months and may need to drop a name to get bailed out (if necessary)...just kidding.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 19:53:24 +0200</pubDate>
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      <title>[Fire/Arson Investigations] Re: self extinguishing cigatettes</title>
      <link>http://www.forumworld.com/arson-investigations/read.php?3,17116,17133#msg-17133</link>
      <author>arsnman4</author>
      <description><![CDATA[[quote]any studies on birds picking up cigarettes and using as nesting materials causing ignition of adjacent materials?[/quote]

Personally witnessed a Mocking Bird in North Palm Beach,FL around 1992 take my spent cig I threw out on the tarmac up into a tree next door to the FD and within a short time we had to put out the tree.  I can confidently say it is possible!]]></description>
      <category>Fire/Arson Investigations</category>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 19:38:12 +0200</pubDate>
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      <title>[RECALL LISTINGS] NAVISTAR IS RECALLING CERTAIN MODEL YEAR 2010-2012 PAYSTAR, WORKSTAR, TRANSTAR, AND PROSTAR COMMERCIAL TRUCKS</title>
      <link>http://www.forumworld.com/arson-investigations/read.php?9,17132,17132#msg-17132</link>
      <author>Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Vehicle Make / Model: 

    

Model Year(s): 



     INTERNATIONAL / PAYSTAR 2010-2012
     INTERNATIONAL / PROSTAR 2010-2012
     INTERNATIONAL / TRANSTAR 2010-2012
     INTERNATIONAL / WORKSTAR 2010-2012

Manufacturer: NAVISTAR, INC

Mfr's Report Date: AUG 17, 2011

NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number: 11V426000 

NHTSA Action Number: N/A 

Component: ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:ALTERNATOR/GENERATOR/REGULATOR

Potential Number of Units Affected: 5,663

Summary: 
NAVISTAR IS RECALLING CERTAIN MODEL YEAR 2010-2012 PAYSTAR, WORKSTAR, TRANSTAR, AND PROSTAR COMMERCIAL TRUCKS MANUFACTURED FROM JUNE 1, 2009, THROUGH MAY 31, 2011, EQUIPPED WITH A MAXXFORCE 11 OR 13 ENGINE (FEATURE CODE 12UXJ OR 12UXH) AND WITH ALTERNATOR FEATURE CODE 08GGN, 08GGR, 08 GHG, OR 08GHH. THE ALTERNATOR CABLE MAY RUB ON THE HIGH PRESSURE POWER STEERING HOSE, POSSIBLY CHAFING ITS INSULATION AND CAUSING AN ELECTRICAL SHORT. 

Consequence
&quot;
AN ELECTRICAL SHORT MAY CAUSE A VEHICLE FIRE POSSIBLY RESULTING IN PROPERTY DAMAGE, PERSONAL INJURY, OR DEATH.

Remedy: 
NAVISTAR WILL INSTALL A BRACKET TO ROUTE THE WIRES AWAY FROM THE POWER STEERING HOSE. NAVISTAR DID NOT PROVIDE AN EXPECTED START DATE FOR THE RECALL, BUT AN INTERIM NOTICE WILL BE MAILED TO OWNERS IF PARTS WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE UNTIL AFTER OCTOBER 14, 2011. OWNERS MAY CONTACT NAVISTAR AT 1-800-448-7825. THIS RECALL CAMPAIGN HAS BEEN SUPERSEDED BY 12V-196.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 17:47:04 +0200</pubDate>
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      <title>[RECALL LISTINGS] NAVISTAR IS RECALLING CERTAIN MODEL YEAR 2010 THROUGH 2013 PAYSTAR, WORKSTAR, TRANSTAR, AND PROSTAR, AND MODEL YEAR 2012 AND 2013 LONESTAR COMMERCIAL TRUCKS</title>
      <link>http://www.forumworld.com/arson-investigations/read.php?9,17131,17131#msg-17131</link>
      <author>Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Vehicle Make / Model: 

    

Model Year(s): 



     INTERNATIONAL / LONESTAR 2012-2013
     INTERNATIONAL / PAYSTAR 2010-2013
     INTERNATIONAL / PROSTAR 2010-2013
     INTERNATIONAL / TRANSTAR 2010-2013
     INTERNATIONAL / WORKSTAR 2010-2013


Manufacturer: NAVISTAR, INC

Mfr's Report Date: MAY 01, 2012

NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number: 12V196000 

NHTSA Action Number: N/A 

Component: ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:ALTERNATOR/GENERATOR/REGULATOR

Potential Number of Units Affected: 19,264

Summary: 
NAVISTAR IS RECALLING CERTAIN MODEL YEAR 2010 THROUGH 2013 PAYSTAR, WORKSTAR, TRANSTAR, AND PROSTAR, AND MODEL YEAR 2012 AND 2013 LONESTAR COMMERCIAL TRUCKS MANUFACTURED FROM JUNE 1, 2009, THROUGH APRIL 4, 2012, EQUIPPED WITH A MAXXFORCE 11 OR 13 ENGINE (FEATURE CODE 12UXJ OR 12UXH) AND WITH BOSCH ALTERNATOR FEATURE CODES 08GGN, 08GGR, 08GHG, OR 08GHH. THE ALTERNATOR CABLE MAY RUB ON THE HIGH PRESSURE POWER STEERING HOSE, POSSIBLY CHAFING ITS INSULATION AND CAUSING AN ELECTRICAL SHORT. 

Consequence: 
AN ELECTRICAL SHORT MAY CAUSE A VEHICLE FIRE POSSIBLY RESULTING IN PROPERTY DAMAGE, PERSONAL INJURY, OR DEATH.

Remedy: 
NAVISTAR WILL INSTALL A STANDOFF BRACKET AND IMPROVE HARNESS ROUTING TO BETTER ROUTE THE ALTERNATOR WIRES AWAY FROM THE POWER STEERING HOSE. NAVISTAR DID NOT PROVIDE AN EXPECTED START DATE FOR THE RECALL, BUT AN INTERIM NOTICE WILL BE MAILED TO OWNERS IF PARTS WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE BEFORE JUNE 30, 2012. OWNERS MAY CONTACT NAVISTAR AT 1-800-448-7825.

Notes: 
NAVISTAR'S CAMPAIGN NUMBER IS 12515. THIS RECALL SUPERSEDES SAFETY RECALL 11V-426, NAVISTAR CAMPAIGN NUMBER 11516. ALL OWNERS THAT HAD THEIR VEHICLES REPAIRED UNDER THE EARLIER RECALL CAMPAIGN WILL NEED TO HAVE THEIR VEHICLE REMEDIED UNDER THIS ONE. OWNERS MAY ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), OR GO TO HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV .]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 17:45:53 +0200</pubDate>
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      <title>[Fire/Arson Investigations] Re: self extinguishing cigatettes</title>
      <link>http://www.forumworld.com/arson-investigations/read.php?3,17116,17130#msg-17130</link>
      <author>John J. Lentini, CFEI</author>
      <description><![CDATA[&quot;There is no way you can explain to the public that taking money from the tobacco industry is a good thing,&quot; said Tom Brace, who served as a marshal in Minnesota and Washington state.&quot; And had I to do that over again, I would not do that.&quot;

Brace and the fire marshals group often were at odds with colleagues in the firefighting community who worked to scale back the use of certain flame retardants after studies showed they can make smoke more toxic.

The fire marshals organization continued promoting flame retardant products even after it was clear that the chemicals inside were escaping, settling in dust and winding up in the bodies of babies and adults worldwide.

The marshals continued even after flame retardants were linked to cancer, neurological deficits, developmental problems and impaired fertility.

And they continued even after government scientists showed that flame retardants in household furniture were not protecting Americans from fire in any meaningful way.”

It’s always smart to admit that you should not have taken those bribes.B)-]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2012 18:17:45 +0200</pubDate>
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