If I understand your question, the document that you want is the ROP (Report on Proposals) for the 2004 edition. The NFPA, or possibly certain individuals may have retained copies. I normally do not retain the ROPs, but I will check our library just in case. Start by calling the NFPA.
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Mike, If you would have carefully read and understood each and every word of the sections which you cite you would have saved yourself quite a bit of effort and writing, and all of the rest of us the effort of reading your post. NFPA 921-2011 EMPHASIS ADDED 4.3.9* Confirmation Bias. Different hypotheses may be compatible with the same data. When using the scientific method, testin
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We are pleased to announce this morning the launch of an updated ISFIConference.com website and the First Call for Papers for ISFI 2014 Presenters Wanted Inform, Meet & Greet. ISFI 2014 is now seeking submissions from authors wishing to present papers at ISFI 2014, September 22-24, 2014. ISFI 2014 will feature plenary sessions and parallel breakout lectures covering a broad spectrum o
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Carter is 100% right in this. The main important difference between the "arson" dog and the drug dog is that if the lab reports back that what was found by the drug dog is not a controlled substance, nobody goes to jail.
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Speaking for yourself George?.
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To prevent geniuses from using open flames to light their cigarettes and themselves.
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NFPA 921 is available in a Spanish edition which may be helpful.
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My only comment is on a quote from the article: "... Feng self-surrendered to Daly City police..." What is the difference between a surrender and a self-surrender? Is it the same as the difference between a suicide and a self-suicide?
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My Arson Detection Canine, “Chrystal,” has a perfect 100% accuracy rating. “Chrystal” has never failed to find accelerants at a fire scene when told to do so. Because “Chrystal” is so much more accurate than the lab, I have never felt the need to take any samples, let alone send them to the laboratory for analysis. Since the failure of the laboratory to confirm any accelerant samples only mean
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Mark, In these cases, it is not the sensitivity of the dogs olfactory system which is the critical issue. Rather, it is the insensitivity of the dog handler to the science, the peril of the unjustly accused, and the true import and consequences of his work. What we see here is stubborn arrogance and an attempted (conscious or unconscious) self-aggrandizement of the importance of the handler
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Here is the Canine Accelerant Detection Association's position paper.
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Seventy tests telling us something we already know.
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Does anyone know of a survey of the ranges of hourly rates for professionals offering fire investigation/analysis services.
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52 years, 30+ states, but not every one.
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We All believe you John. Where is the end of the line for "arson" investigators to sign up to do the insurance investigation (pro bono)? Do you need the telephone number for the local "Innocence Project" attorneys?
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Yes, On-Demand PowerPoint with recorded audio is in th works.
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Citizens for Fire Safety Institute article.
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HBO "Toxic Hot Seat" documentary
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I was under the impression that only ionization smoke alarms need to be replaced every ten years, because their detection chambers are ionized by the radioactive material Americium 241.
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Doug, The heater in your photo is commonly called a Milk House Heater. The outer case is typically of a heavy gauge steel and most always survives the fire.
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I was watching ESPN tonight. I need help with my calculations. Was that 27 to 20?
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Let us not forget the paraphrase of the English common law paradigm which so apply applies: “Ignorance is no excuse.”
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I am eagerly awaiting the Texas Attorney General’s office ruling that Texas will revert to the Ptolemaic system of the solar system: as Copernicus' “De revolutionibus orbium coelestium” (1543), Kepler’s “Astronomia nova” (1609), and Galieo’s “Dialogo sopra i due massimi sistemi del mondo” (1632) were all written prior to 2005. 2005 was not the year that the sun stopped revolving around the ea
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Ferrino-McAllister, J., Roby, R.J., Milke, J., “Heating of Electrical Contacts: Characterizing the Effects of Torque, Contact Area, and Movement on the Temperature of Residential Receptacles”, Fire Technology, Volume 42, No.1, January 2006, pp. 49-74.
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"hot metal particles that are produced when two conductors come in contact" are not arcs. They are sparks. No fires have ever been caused by electrical arcs, sparks, or electrical resistance heating. However, they can be good ignition sources. NFPA 921-2011 3.3.7 Arc. A high-temperature luminous electric discharge across a gap or through a medium such as charred insulation. 3.3.47 E
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It is still early. Have about 25 abstracts, mostly from the usual suspects, but I am still waiting for yours. In fact I have been waiting 11 years. I guarantee it will be the best fire investigation conference you have ever attended.
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ISFI 2014 The fifth biennial INTERNATIONAL SYMPOSIUM ON FIRE INVESTIGATION SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY ISFI 2014 will be returning to The University of Maryland's University College Inn and Conference Center on Monday, September 22, 2014 through Wednesday, September 24, 2014. IMPORTANT ISFI 2014 DATES Abstract Submissions and Delegate Early Registrations are currently being accepted for ISFI 2
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Yes, of course. That's what depositions, cross-examination and trials are for.
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I don't know about the rest of them George, but for you and me it is because of our good breeding and demure personalities. Maybe we should only call them out when they win?
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