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Re: Error Rate of Fire Reports
Posted by: SJAvato (IP Logged)
Date: July 17, 2006 04:53PM

I'd be interested in seeing that paper. My guess is that they are talking about looking at individual cause errors as compared to the total number of causes for fires. In other words it is OK if one investigator mistakenly called a fire as being ignited by a cigarette, when in fact it was an intentional act because another investigator called a cigarette ignition an arson. This statistical averaging accounts for arguments that the numbers of PARTICULAR causes are either under or over reported. The individual cause error rates may "cancel out" because (the argument goes) the 20 fires that were called cigarette ignitions that were actually arsons are offset by the 20 fires that were wrongly coded as arsons that should have been cigarette ignitions. Clearly the problem with this argument is that it is intuitive or anecdotal and not based on real studies. It may be impossible to develop real statistics on this because investigators would have to go back, re-evaluate their calls and change them in order to correct errors. In real fires, it has to be the original investigator who admits an error. If another investigator comes in and says that I was wrong and the call should have been accidental, isn't it possible that they are wrong and it was, in fact, an arson? (This example might look familiar to some readers of this forum... or those who've been to court!) Even if I change my call... maybe I was wrong about being wrong. (I think you see the problem.)

An additional problem with this type of statistical analysis is that it really doesn't account for the impact "wrong" individual scene calls have in the real world. Statistically, it might not matter that a few accidental fires are mislabeled as arsons because they will be offset by "wrong" accidental calls. However, in the real world, real accidents that are called arsons might result in real people being charged with someone's mistake or a real arsonist may go unpunished and remain free to place more innocent people at risk. While, intuitively, I agree that the overall causes probably average out and there's not much sense in arguing the error rates of individual calls, it doesn't mean we should be cavalier about the impact the errors may have in either financial or human terms.

Steve



Subject Views Written By Posted
  Error Rate of Fire Reports 1696 Jim Mazerat 07/17/2006 04:12PM
  Re: Error Rate of Fire Reports 1060 SJAvato 07/17/2006 04:53PM
  Re: Error Rate of Fire Reports 997 Jim Mazerat 07/17/2006 05:28PM
  Re: Error Rate of Fire Reports 977 Tony La Palio 07/18/2006 12:37PM
  Re: Error Rate of Fire Reports 925 Jim Mazerat 07/18/2006 03:59PM
  Re: Error Rate of Fire Reports 946 Tom McAdam 07/19/2006 09:27AM


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