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Re: Fire Investigation +Fire Modelling
Posted by: John J. Lentini, CFEI (IP Logged)
Date: September 19, 2006 08:32PM

The Station fire is indeed a great example of the utility of models. By changing the inputs to the model, the talented folks at NIST were able to get their computer program to very closely reproduce what had already been captured on videotape.

The answers to this one were in the back of the book. Sure, once the model was made to match the known characteristics of the fire, it could be queried for more detail than could be gotten from the video, and those details may actually be a close approximation of what really happened.

The difficuly in using models for fire investigation comes about when there is no videotape available, and the model is asked to provide the data. As with the Station fire, the inputs can be changed to arrive at almost any desired result. If the fire spreads too slowly or too rapidly to match an eyewitness's perception, then the HRR of the USER SPECIFIED FIRE can be modified. Of course if the eyewitness is also a suspect, the model can be used to show that the witness's statements about what happened are not true.

We are at an interesting juncture. A valuable tool is available, but care must be taken to assure that it is used properly. As with any computer output, a reality check is required.

Computer models have been used for many years to reconstruct car wrecks, a complicated business, but nowhere close to the complexity of a fire. Anyomne familiar with these models will tell you that the most important component is the one between the chair and the keyboard.



Subject Views Written By Posted
  Fire Investigation +Fire Modelling 1813 John Gow RFP 09/18/2006 11:32AM
  Re: Fire Investigation +Fire Modelling 1109 John J. Lentini, CFEI 09/18/2006 12:46PM
  Re: Fire Investigation +Fire Modelling 1077 jgmcfps 09/18/2006 01:36PM
  Re: Fire Investigation +Fire Modelling 1023 Mike H. 09/18/2006 09:07PM
  Re: Fire Investigation +Fire Modelling 1010 jgmcfps 09/19/2006 07:02AM
  Re: Fire Investigation +Fire Modelling 979 John J. Lentini, CFEI 09/19/2006 08:32PM
  Re: Fire Investigation +Fire Modelling 975 dougross 09/23/2006 03:09PM
  Re: Fire Investigation +Fire Modelling 1095 greggorbett 09/19/2006 08:52AM
  Re: Fire Investigation +Fire Modelling 1022 Tony La Palio 09/19/2006 11:16AM
  Re: Fire Investigation +Fire Modelling 994 John Gow RFP 09/21/2006 07:16AM


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