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Re: 921, the nature of "Science" and sound hypotheses
Posted by: ssklar (IP Logged)
Date: October 20, 2006 10:28AM

Steve

You touch on a very important point, and one that I think is a major problem in the field of fire investigation; science. In my pracitce, I see investiagors relying on 'rules of thumb". Their knowledge and understanding of physics, chemsitry , and fire dynamics is usually non existent or at best limited. The extent of these investigators knowledge is typically limited to "fire burns up and out".

921 and other scientific publications contain accpted scientific research and knowledge that should be used to form hypothesis. To me, when someone says that they followed 921 it means they used the scientific method properly to reach their hypothesis, and the hypothesis reached is scientifically valid, amont other things.

If an investigator fails to use the scientific method properly, and forms an hypothesis based on bad science, then documents like 921 and others should be used to demonstrate that the opinion is not the product of a reliable method, and is unsuporrted by science. Because 921 in particlular represents the consensus of those in the fire investigation community,it should carry a lot of weight when used to demonstrate that an hypotheis is not valid



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  921, the nature of "Science" and sound hypotheses 1646 SJAvato 10/20/2006 09:56AM
  Re: 921, the nature of "Science" and sound hypotheses 959 Jim Mazerat 10/20/2006 10:25AM
  Re: 921, the nature of "Science" and sound hypotheses 974 ssklar 10/20/2006 10:28AM
  Re: 921, the nature of "Science" and sound hypotheses 950 Jim Mazerat 10/20/2006 03:07PM
  Re: 921, the nature of "Science" and sound hypotheses 952 MIJ 10/20/2006 11:45AM
  Re: 921, the nature of "Science" and sound hypotheses 963 SJAvato 10/20/2006 12:19PM
  Re: 921, the nature of "Science" and sound hypotheses 916 ttijerina 10/20/2006 02:54PM
  Re: 921, the nature of "Science" and sound hypotheses 938 MIJ 10/20/2006 04:09PM
  Re: 921, the nature of "Science" and sound hypotheses 919 Jim Mazerat 10/20/2006 04:20PM
  Re: 921, the nature of "Science" and sound hypotheses 879 MIJ 10/20/2006 04:43PM
  Re: 921, the nature of "Science" and sound hypotheses 934 Jim Mazerat 10/20/2006 04:54PM
  Re: 921, the nature of "Science" and sound hypotheses 908 MIJ 10/20/2006 05:03PM
  Re: 921, the nature of "Science" and sound hypotheses 979 dcarpenter 10/24/2006 02:53PM
  Re: 921, the nature of "Science" and sound hypotheses 933 Ted Pagels 10/24/2006 06:31PM


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