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Minimum Ignition Energy (mJ) of gases
Posted by: J L Mazerat (IP Logged)
Date: December 29, 2017 09:47AM

Could the information contained in NFPA 921, Minimum Ignition Energy (mJ) for specific gases be misleading. Table 23.8.1 give specific values in mJ for the minimum ignition energy for each of the gases listed. A number of investigators have used these values as absolutes numbers when stating what the minimum ignition energy (mJ) would have been required to have caused ignition on a specific incident. If the person reaching that conclusion does not know the specific concentration from which the posted value was obtained and does not know the specific concentration of the gas at the incident at the time of ignition, how then can a conclusion be reached using the values listed in NFPA 921.

What NFPA 921 does not do is to state these values were based on specific test with specific concentrations. ASTM, when discussing the precision of the test method states the following; “Available indications are that reproducibility (and presumably accuracy) of +/- 10 % in minimum ignition energy and +/- 2% in ignition quenching distance arc readily achieved in those instances where results are relatively independent of fuel-oxidizer concentration. For mixture compositions approaching the limits of flammability the minimum ignition energy varies so rapidly with mixture composition that reproducibility of the test mixture becomes the limiting and controlling parameter (it is possible that a 0.1% variation in fuel concentration could change the ignition energies by factor of 100 to 1000).”

Jim Mazerat
Forensic Investigations Group



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  Minimum Ignition Energy (mJ) of gases 1547 J L Mazerat 12/29/2017 09:47AM
  Re: Minimum Ignition Energy (mJ) of gases 834 Mark Goodson 12/29/2017 10:47AM
  Re: Minimum Ignition Energy (mJ) of gases 833 J L Mazerat 12/29/2017 03:09PM
  Re: Minimum Ignition Energy (mJ) of gases 801 rdzimm 12/30/2017 01:25PM
  Re: Minimum Ignition Energy (mJ) of gases 827 Fire 12/30/2017 01:32PM
  Re: Minimum Ignition Energy (mJ) of gases 800 Sir Gary 12/31/2017 12:31AM
  Re: Minimum Ignition Energy (mJ) of gases 835 J L Mazerat 12/30/2017 08:06PM
  Re: Minimum Ignition Energy (mJ) of gases 838 John Lentini 12/31/2017 05:13PM
  Re: Minimum Ignition Energy (mJ) of gases 815 J L Mazerat 12/31/2017 08:19PM
  Re: Minimum Ignition Energy (mJ) of gases 774 Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant 01/02/2018 03:06AM
  Re: Minimum Ignition Energy (mJ) of gases 755 J L Mazerat 01/02/2018 10:13AM
  Re: Minimum Ignition Energy (mJ) of gases 763 dcarpenter 01/02/2018 11:49AM
  Re: Minimum Ignition Energy (mJ) of gases 797 J L Mazerat 01/02/2018 12:31PM
  Re: Minimum Ignition Energy (mJ) of gases 853 dcarpenter 01/02/2018 01:44PM
  Re: Minimum Ignition Energy (mJ) of gases 786 J L Mazerat 01/02/2018 03:20PM
  Re: Minimum Ignition Energy (mJ) of gases 791 dcarpenter 01/02/2018 03:54PM
  Re: Minimum Ignition Energy (mJ) of gases 762 dcarpenter 01/02/2018 03:58PM
  Re: Minimum Ignition Energy (mJ) of gases 750 J L Mazerat 01/02/2018 07:13PM
  Re: Minimum Ignition Energy (mJ) of gases 792 J L Mazerat 01/02/2018 07:12PM
  Re: Minimum Ignition Energy (mJ) of gases 898 dcarpenter 01/02/2018 01:58PM
  Re: Minimum Ignition Energy (mJ) of gases 766 J L Mazerat 01/02/2018 02:31PM
  Re: Minimum Ignition Energy (mJ) of gases 766 dcarpenter 01/02/2018 03:35PM
  Re: Minimum Ignition Energy (mJ) of gases 773 dcarpenter 01/02/2018 05:25PM
  Re: Minimum Ignition Energy (mJ) of gases 746 J L Mazerat 01/02/2018 07:27PM
  Re: Minimum Ignition Energy (mJ) of gases 782 J L Mazerat 01/02/2018 07:18PM


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