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Re: Certifications - Question for Bloom and Munger
Posted by: rjschaal (IP Logged)
Date: March 09, 2007 12:41PM

Pat,

Thanks for your response. First, I am not trying to fuel anything, I was just asking questions based on all that I have read. I could not agree more that the training of Attorneys is very important and those attorneys involved in this field should seek to educate themselves. ATF and the US Fire Adminstration ran a fairly successful program for Arson Prosecutors and the feedback has been that the information presented allows them to better utilize thier witnesses and ask more appropriate questions of their experts.

I also agree that experience, in and of itself is not an accurate measurment of ability, nor is strict testing of knowledge. (I am sure that you have had a sergeant or manager that passed a test but really did not how to do the job they were assigned to - even though they had experience ( 10 years experience or 1 year 10 times syndrome?) These are just bench marks we must utilize to reasonably narrow the field.

As to meeting the requirements of 1033, I would still hold a diffent opinion. You have demonstrated that the Attorney might possess the Prerequisite Knowledge but you have not really demonstrated that they demonstrate the Prerequisite skills. Many of the skill sets involve actual scene processing.

You are probably correct in that if you have only 12 CFEI's that are attorneys it might not be worth the hassle of a seperate designation but it is unfortunate that one attorney has apparently chosen to disrespect your program and use his certification in a way that I do not believe you intended it to be utilized.

As for the Certification Guidelines, Is there some other document that the base line requirements are listed? I did not see it on the application or in the Guidebook.

As for KSA's...............................

Thanks,

Bobby

PS - Hebert does not like tea and therefore would not be tempted by it - he drinks Coffee with Chickory!!!



Subject Views Written By Posted
  Certifications 2176 K Vanderpool 03/02/2007 11:48AM
  Re: Certifications 1417 MIKE 03/02/2007 02:03PM
  Re: Certifications 1512 PMK140 03/02/2007 04:49PM
  Re: Certifications 1339 MIKE 03/02/2007 05:22PM
  Re: Certifications 1179 Jerrett L. Love IAAI-CFI, CFEI 03/02/2007 06:04PM
  Re: Certifications 1189 MIKE 03/02/2007 06:28PM
  Re: Certifications 1247 Jim Mazerat 03/02/2007 06:30PM
  Re: Certifications 1183 firecop5002 03/04/2007 10:51PM
  Re: Certifications 1255 Anonymous User 03/05/2007 09:16AM
  Re: Certifications 1209 Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant 03/06/2007 02:11AM
  Witness Tampering 1341 jgmcfps 03/06/2007 11:29AM
  Re: Witness Tampering 1164 Jim Mazerat 03/06/2007 12:38PM
  Re: Witness Tampering 1099 jgmcfps 03/06/2007 06:05PM
  Witness Tampering Articles 1124 jgmcfps 03/06/2007 06:17PM
  PI Licenses - Testifying 1235 Hunter B. (Terry) Lacy 03/07/2007 10:13PM
  Re: PI Licenses - Testifying 1096 Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant 03/08/2007 02:47AM
  Re: PI Licenses - Testifying 1056 PMK140 03/08/2007 10:02AM
  Re: PI Licenses - Testifying 1722 Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant 03/08/2007 12:23PM
  Re: PI Licenses - Testifying 1020 Hunter B. (Terry) Lacy 03/08/2007 11:04PM
  State Laws vs Personal Preferences 1377 Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant 03/04/2007 12:17PM
  Re: Certifications 1261 RDS 03/05/2007 08:18AM
  Re: Certifications 1722 PMK140 03/05/2007 08:53AM
  Re: Certifications 1188 Jim Mazerat 03/05/2007 09:53AM
  Re: Certifications 1190 PMK140 03/05/2007 01:04PM
  Re: Certifications 1227 Jim Mazerat 03/05/2007 02:32PM
  Re: Certifications 1177 PMK140 03/05/2007 03:33PM
  Re: Certifications 1261 Jim Mazerat 03/05/2007 03:59PM
  Re: Certifications 1136 PMK140 03/05/2007 04:08PM
  Re: Certifications 1096 Jim Mazerat 03/05/2007 04:19PM
  Re: Certifications 1174 ssklar 03/08/2007 08:06PM
  Re: Certifications 1154 Jim Mazerat 03/08/2007 09:35PM
  Re: Certifications 1092 Jim Mazerat 03/08/2007 09:46PM
  Re: Certifications 1024 ssklar 03/09/2007 09:34AM
  Re: Certifications 1179 Gerald Hurst 03/06/2007 12:53AM
  Re: Certifications 1160 Jim Mazerat 03/06/2007 08:02AM
  Re: Certifications 1189 G Van Doren 03/06/2007 11:46AM
  Re: Certifications 1130 Jim Mazerat 03/06/2007 12:39PM
  Re: Certifications 1180 John J. Lentini, CFEI 03/06/2007 09:58PM
  Re: Certifications 1283 G Van Doren 03/07/2007 08:49AM
  Re: Certifications 1123 ssklar 03/08/2007 08:18PM
  Re: Certifications 1189 Jim Mazerat 03/08/2007 09:44PM
  Re: Certifications 998 Jim Mazerat 03/08/2007 10:11PM
  Re: Certifications 1061 dcarpenter 03/09/2007 09:17AM
  Re: Certifications 1073 PMK140 03/09/2007 10:20AM
  Re: Certifications 1051 Jim Mazerat 03/06/2007 11:14AM
  Re: Certifications 1212 Gerald Hurst 03/06/2007 12:37PM
  Re: Certifications 1057 Jim Mazerat 03/06/2007 12:48PM
  Re: Certifications 1152 Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant 03/06/2007 02:03AM
  Re: Certifications 1186 RDS 03/05/2007 02:56PM
  Re: Certifications 1264 Jim Mazerat 03/05/2007 03:07PM
  Re: Certifications - Question for Bloom and Munger 1212 PMK140 03/07/2007 08:10AM
  Re: Certifications - Question for Bloom and Munger 1106 Jim Mazerat 03/07/2007 09:46AM
  Re: Certifications - Question for Bloom and Munger 1194 PMK140 03/07/2007 04:23PM
  Re: Certifications - Question for Bloom and Munger 973 Jim Mazerat 03/07/2007 05:16PM
  Re: Certifications - Question for Bloom and Munger 1133 Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant 03/08/2007 12:39AM
  Re: Certifications - Question for Bloom and Munger 1768 jgmcfps 03/07/2007 09:55AM
  Re: Certifications - Question for Bloom and Munger 1164 Jim Mazerat 03/07/2007 10:38AM
  Re: Certifications - Question for Bloom and Munger 1735 John J. Lentini, CFEI 03/07/2007 11:04AM
  Re: Certifications - Question for Bloom and Munger 1036 Jim Mazerat 03/07/2007 02:07PM
  Re: Certifications - Question for Bloom and Munger 1165 Jim Mazerat 03/07/2007 09:55AM
  Re: Certifications - Question for Bloom and Munger 1086 Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant 03/08/2007 12:41AM
  Re: Certifications - Question for Bloom and Munger 1083 dahebert 03/08/2007 12:20PM
  Re: Certifications - Question for Bloom and Munger 1049 MIJ 03/08/2007 01:02PM
  Re: Certifications - Question for Bloom and Munger 1178 PMK140 03/08/2007 05:52PM
  Re: Certifications - Question for Bloom and Munger 1064 dahebert 03/08/2007 08:33PM
  Re: Certifications - Question for Bloom and Munger 1094 rjschaal 03/09/2007 12:34AM
  Re: Certifications - Question for Bloom and Munger 1088 dahebert 03/09/2007 09:41AM
  Re: Certifications - Question for Bloom and Munger 1187 PMK140 03/09/2007 10:15AM
  Re: Certifications - Question for Bloom and Munger 1121 dahebert 03/09/2007 10:44AM
  Re: Certifications - Question for Bloom and Munger 1151 rjschaal 03/09/2007 12:41PM


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