Fire/Arson Investigations :  Fire/Arson Investigations The fastest message board... ever.
A place to ask questions and add to probative and informative discussions associated with the various aspects of the field of fire investigation. -- FORUM RULES---BE CIVIL AND NO NAME CALLING, NO BELITTLING, NO BERATING, NO DENIGRATING others. Postings in violation of these rules can be removed or editted to remove the offending remarks at the discretion of the moderators and/or site administrator. 
Re: Minimum Ignition Energy (mJ) of gases
Posted by: dcarpenter (IP Logged)
Date: January 02, 2018 03:54PM

One can circulate one's proposal to colleagues within the professional community for review and comments before submission for review of the committee. I have helped many with proposals before they are officially submitted. There are members of the committee that have requested comments on their proposals before formal submission.

Proposals are not subjective if they are the product of a reliable methodology. Of course, as you point out, there are proposals that have to be assessed on a subjective basis. That is part of the consensus process. Not every proposal is strictly objective. Yes, the discussion can be enlightening. I sometimes change my vote based on an eloquent justification by members with differing experience with investigations.

Sometimes I vote against because the discussion revolved around a scientifically unreliable basis, ignorance, a lack of consideration of all the trade offs associated with the change, or the change does not meet with the objectives (sometimes subjective or ill-defined objectives) of the document or the perceived audience. In the end, this document cannot become the single source for "all things fire investigation." It has essential elements, such as the application of the Scientific Method, but we may have crossed the line in the content exceeding the value of the document.

We may not need a bigger/better document, we may need to have a well-educated professional community. Given the complexity of the subject of the combustion and fire sciences and the state of affairs currently, we have our work cut out for us.

Douglas J. Carpenter, MScFPE, CFEI, PE, FSFPE
Vice President & Principal Engineer
Combustion Science & Engineering, Inc.
8940 Old Annapolis Road, Suite L
Columbia, MD 21045
(410) 884-3266
(410) 884-3267 (fax)
www.csefire.com



Subject Views Written By Posted
  Minimum Ignition Energy (mJ) of gases 1552 J L Mazerat 12/29/2017 09:47AM
  Re: Minimum Ignition Energy (mJ) of gases 836 Mark Goodson 12/29/2017 10:47AM
  Re: Minimum Ignition Energy (mJ) of gases 835 J L Mazerat 12/29/2017 03:09PM
  Re: Minimum Ignition Energy (mJ) of gases 803 rdzimm 12/30/2017 01:25PM
  Re: Minimum Ignition Energy (mJ) of gases 829 Fire 12/30/2017 01:32PM
  Re: Minimum Ignition Energy (mJ) of gases 802 Sir Gary 12/31/2017 12:31AM
  Re: Minimum Ignition Energy (mJ) of gases 838 J L Mazerat 12/30/2017 08:06PM
  Re: Minimum Ignition Energy (mJ) of gases 840 John Lentini 12/31/2017 05:13PM
  Re: Minimum Ignition Energy (mJ) of gases 817 J L Mazerat 12/31/2017 08:19PM
  Re: Minimum Ignition Energy (mJ) of gases 776 Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant 01/02/2018 03:06AM
  Re: Minimum Ignition Energy (mJ) of gases 757 J L Mazerat 01/02/2018 10:13AM
  Re: Minimum Ignition Energy (mJ) of gases 765 dcarpenter 01/02/2018 11:49AM
  Re: Minimum Ignition Energy (mJ) of gases 799 J L Mazerat 01/02/2018 12:31PM
  Re: Minimum Ignition Energy (mJ) of gases 855 dcarpenter 01/02/2018 01:44PM
  Re: Minimum Ignition Energy (mJ) of gases 788 J L Mazerat 01/02/2018 03:20PM
  Re: Minimum Ignition Energy (mJ) of gases 793 dcarpenter 01/02/2018 03:54PM
  Re: Minimum Ignition Energy (mJ) of gases 764 dcarpenter 01/02/2018 03:58PM
  Re: Minimum Ignition Energy (mJ) of gases 753 J L Mazerat 01/02/2018 07:13PM
  Re: Minimum Ignition Energy (mJ) of gases 795 J L Mazerat 01/02/2018 07:12PM
  Re: Minimum Ignition Energy (mJ) of gases 900 dcarpenter 01/02/2018 01:58PM
  Re: Minimum Ignition Energy (mJ) of gases 768 J L Mazerat 01/02/2018 02:31PM
  Re: Minimum Ignition Energy (mJ) of gases 768 dcarpenter 01/02/2018 03:35PM
  Re: Minimum Ignition Energy (mJ) of gases 775 dcarpenter 01/02/2018 05:25PM
  Re: Minimum Ignition Energy (mJ) of gases 749 J L Mazerat 01/02/2018 07:27PM
  Re: Minimum Ignition Energy (mJ) of gases 785 J L Mazerat 01/02/2018 07:18PM


Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
This forum powered by Phorum.