Fire/Arson Investigations :  Fire/Arson Investigations The fastest message board... ever.
A place to ask questions and add to probative and informative discussions associated with the various aspects of the field of fire investigation. -- FORUM RULES---BE CIVIL AND NO NAME CALLING, NO BELITTLING, NO BERATING, NO DENIGRATING others. Postings in violation of these rules can be removed or editted to remove the offending remarks at the discretion of the moderators and/or site administrator. 
Re: Undetermined Fire Determination - Pressure???
Posted by: Ted Pagels (IP Logged)
Date: November 13, 2006 10:02PM

Hello,

In 921, 19.2.1.4 states, " Whenever the cause cannot be proven to an acceptable level of certanty, the proper classification is undetermined."

This tells me that in a report to your client or your superior officer one should be listing the causes (accidental, natural, or incendiary) that you can't rule out and reasons why. If that does not appease, show them that in 921 it states, " 921, 19.2.1.4 states, " Whenever the cause cannot be proven to an acceptable level of certanty................."

However you classify your fire cause it must be supported by your (physical and/or circumstantial) evidence. The evidence or lack of it will support your cause determination.

Ted J. Pagels
FIREPROSe, LLC
Green Bay, WI



Subject Views Written By Posted
  Undetermined Fire Determination - Pressure??? 2156 Thomas Sing 11/13/2006 02:28PM
  Re: Undetermined Fire Determination - Pressure??? 1131 MIJ 11/13/2006 03:24PM
  Re: Undetermined Fire Determination - Pressure??? 1043 MIJ 11/13/2006 03:24PM
  Re: Undetermined Fire Determination - Pressure??? 1073 Thomas Sing 11/14/2006 03:36AM
  Re: Undetermined Fire Determination - Pressure??? 1079 Thomas Sing 11/14/2006 05:32AM
  Re: Undetermined Fire Determination - Pressure??? 1064 Nick Markowitz 11/13/2006 04:55PM
  Re: Undetermined Fire Determination - Pressure??? 1058 Ted Pagels 11/13/2006 10:02PM
  Re: Undetermined Fire Determination - Pressure??? 1058 MIJ 11/13/2006 11:14PM
  Re: Undetermined Fire Determination - Pressure??? 961 Thomas Sing 11/14/2006 05:42AM
  Re: Undetermined Fire Determination - Pressure??? 993 Thomas Sing 11/14/2006 05:44AM
  Re: Undetermined Fire Determination - Pressure??? 1035 Anonymous User 11/14/2006 08:48AM
  Re: Undetermined Fire Determination - Pressure??? 1116 John J. Lentini, CFEI 11/14/2006 09:45AM
  Re: Undetermined Fire Determination - Pressure??? 1051 Bruce G. Pulver IAAI CFI 11/14/2006 12:18PM
  Re: Undetermined Fire Determination - Pressure??? 1478 coeengineer 11/14/2006 02:21PM
  Re: Undetermined Fire Determination - Pressure??? 1041 Thomas Sing 11/14/2006 05:07PM
  Re: Undetermined Fire Determination - Pressure??? 1136 John J. Lentini, CFEI 11/14/2006 06:17PM
  Re: Undetermined Fire Determination - Pressure??? 1162 SCarman 11/15/2006 01:15AM
  Re: Undetermined Fire Determination - Pressure??? 1029 dahebert 12/15/2006 09:27AM


Sorry, only registered users may post in this forum.
This forum powered by Phorum.