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Re: Kristine Bunch
Posted by: PMK140 (IP Logged)
Date: August 13, 2012 06:20PM

Doug,

No one doubts that CO and toxic products of combustion are major considerations. No one doubts your and Jaimie's knowledge and intelligence. But, there is no peer-reviewed research which has been published to support your theory that blood gas species of a fire victim can be used to determine the origin, cause, or development of a fire.

You and your group are the only self-appointed authorities. You and your group are the only ones teaching this theory. You and your group are the only ones profering such testimony (with mixed results).

The fact that you and your group have been lecturing on this topic to various fire investigation groups is definitely not a viable argument that it is accurate, or usable. "This is a provable valid method of fire investigation because we have been lecturing about it" is simply a circumlocutious, self-serving, ipsi dixit argument.

You and your group have been proffering this theory upon the fire investigation community, and actually putting it forward in testimony for many years now, but no one else. Your explaination for this is "Nobody else is smart enough to nderstand it.

None of the 40 references you site say anything about the use of blood gas species analysis in origin or cause determination. They are “Red Herring.”

The facts remain. This is not a peer-reviewed generally accepted methodology for origin and cause determination. There has been no peer reviewed research to show that this theory is nothing more that speculation. Quite similar to Larry Arnold’ s palming off Spontaneous Human Combustion or the use of Auger Electron Spectroscopy for determining whether an arc bead was the cause of result of a fire.

It has not been empirically tested, is falsifiable, refutable, or testable.

Therefore, it should not be defensible in a Daubert Challenge.

By the way, calling everyone who disagrees with your unproven theory not smart or educated enough understand is the same arguments that were used for the proof of cold fusion and the efficacy of “Snake Oil,” and beneath you.

Pat Kennedy, CFEI, CFPS, MIFireE
Fire and Explosion Analyst
Sarasota, Florida
[www.kennedy-fire.com]



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  Re: Kristine Bunch 1436 dcarpenter 08/12/2012 08:05AM
  Re: Kristine Bunch 1450 PMK140 08/12/2012 09:48AM
  Re: Kristine Bunch 1460 dcarpenter 08/12/2012 10:12AM
  Re: Kristine Bunch 1446 Mark Goodson 08/12/2012 10:21AM
  Re: Kristine Bunch 1409 dcarpenter 08/13/2012 09:53AM
  Re: Kristine Bunch 1316 arsnman4 08/15/2012 02:50PM
  Re: Kristine Bunch 1290 arsnman4 08/15/2012 02:54PM
  Re: Kristine Bunch 1080 dcarpenter 12/23/2016 11:55AM
  Re: Kristine Bunch 1402 PMK140 08/12/2012 10:31AM
  Re: Kristine Bunch 1370 dcarpenter 08/13/2012 10:54AM
  Re: Kristine Bunch 1287 dcarpenter 08/13/2012 11:39AM
  Re: Kristine Bunch 1360 dcarpenter 08/13/2012 01:43PM
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  Re: Kristine Bunch 1330 dcarpenter 08/13/2012 01:59PM
  Re: Kristine Bunch 1216 Fire 08/13/2012 08:20PM
  Re: Kristine Bunch 1293 PMK140 08/14/2012 06:13AM
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  Re: Kristine Bunch 1293 PMK140 08/14/2012 11:34AM
  Re: Kristine Bunch 1325 Fire 08/15/2012 01:28PM
  Re: Kristine Bunch 1401 Mark Goodson 08/12/2012 01:37PM
  Re: Kristine Bunch 1376 dcarpenter 08/13/2012 10:17AM
  Re: Kristine Bunch 1376 rjschaal 08/12/2012 06:53PM
  Re: Kristine Bunch 1304 dcarpenter 08/13/2012 10:56AM
  Re: Kristine Bunch 2332 dcarpenter 08/13/2012 02:43PM
  Re: Kristine Bunch 1206 Sir Gary 08/13/2012 02:58PM
  Re: Kristine Bunch 1353 PMK140 08/13/2012 06:20PM
  Re: Kristine Bunch 1339 John J. Lentini, CFEI 08/13/2012 06:38PM
  Re: Kristine Bunch 1210 PMK140 08/13/2012 06:49PM
  Re: Kristine Bunch 1290 John J. Lentini, CFEI 08/13/2012 10:17PM
  Re: Kristine Bunch 1289 Gerald Hurst 08/14/2012 12:24AM
  Re: Kristine Bunch 1232 dcarpenter 08/14/2012 07:25AM
  Re: Kristine Bunch 1301 PMK140 08/14/2012 09:23AM
  Re: Kristine Bunch 1242 dcarpenter 08/14/2012 01:11PM
  Re: Kristine Bunch 1289 jkevn 08/14/2012 03:53PM
  Re: ISFI 2012 Presentation Invitation 1325 PMK140 08/15/2012 12:57PM
  Re: ISFI 2012 Presentation Invitation 1392 dcarpenter 08/16/2012 11:54AM
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  Re: Kristine Bunch 1208 dcarpenter 08/13/2012 01:33PM
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