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Re: Recipient of the First Forum Banned Post --The Winner is!
Posted by: Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant (IP Logged)
Date: March 15, 2007 02:01PM

Mike, Pat, Nick, George et al.

I agree in general with Mikes last posting. However, besides the Libel laws which many posts are on the verge of violating and many of these postings being used in court (as referenced by Mr. LaPalio's last posting and I have warned about repeatedly over the past 4-5 years), there is at least one other issue to support this position, involving our field's Code of Ethics.

Excerpt of the NAFI Code of Ethics:

PREAMBLE: Fire investigation is an honorable profession based on service, research, knowledge, preparation, experience, technical know-how and ethical standards. In recognition of the dedicated professional men and women who serve the world as Fire Investigators under the American system of “Justice Under the Law,” the National Association of Fire Investigators has established a Creed and Code of Ethics, which is binding upon all of its members. Each member agrees as follows:
1. As a Fire Investigator, I will at all times conduct myself accordingly to this Code of Ethics, which I have signed.
2. I will deal justly and impartially with all individuals, regardless of their physical, mental, emotional, political, economic, social, racial, or religious characteristics.
3. I do, as a Fire Investigator, regard myself as a member of an important and honorable professional, and will strive to serve fairly in all other respects not specifically covered by this CODE.

Either we are going to support the Code of Ethics of our organizations or we should get rid of them completely and let this be an anarchy of free thought and posting without regard to professionism and the founding principles of the field. I personally have chosen the former to promote professionalism in the field.

How many times have we seen or heard recently that people are no longer posting here because they are afraid of the backlash and ridicule for asking some questions? This forum has about 230 members but only only 128 have posted here, about 30 regularly. That is roughly 1/7 and should tell you something.

I totally understand that many of the discussions can be heated sometimes, especially given the strong emotions that several issues raise. However, we are here to promote our field in the best possible way, as well as discuss issues, and when necessary, help others with issues and topics that may arise. Using name calling and degrading libelous comments does not promote professionalism.

Being said, perhaps in the future such rules will not be needed, one can only hope. But right now, given the venom flying and personal degredation and name calling, that is the reason for the new rule change here


Chris



Subject Views Written By Posted
  Recipient of the First Forum Banned Post --The Winner is! 2290 Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant 03/14/2007 11:59PM
  Re: Recipient of the First Forum Banned Post --The Winner is! 1066 G Van Doren 03/15/2007 07:06AM
  Re: Recipient of the First Forum Banned Post --The Winner is! 1011 Nick Markowitz 03/15/2007 08:12AM
  Re: Recipient of the First Forum Banned Post --The Winner is! 1109 Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant 03/15/2007 10:51AM
  Re: Recipient of the First Forum Banned Post --The Winner is! 1055 G Van Doren 03/15/2007 06:02PM
  Re: Recipient of the First Forum Banned Post --Slippery Slope 1122 PMK140 03/15/2007 08:45AM
  Re: Recipient of the First Forum Banned Post --Slippery Slope 1062 MIKE 03/15/2007 01:17PM
  Re: Recipient of the First Forum Banned Post --The Winner is! 1221 Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant 03/15/2007 02:01PM
  Re: Recipient of the First Forum Banned Post --The Winner is! 1073 G Van Doren 03/15/2007 05:52PM
  Re: Recipient of the First Forum Banned Post --The Winner is! 1004 MIJ 03/15/2007 09:15PM
  Re: Recipient of the First Forum Banned Post --The Winner is! 992 G Van Doren 03/15/2007 09:38PM
  Re: Recipient of the First Forum Banned Post --The Winner is! 957 MIJ 03/15/2007 09:47PM
  Re: Recipient of the First Forum Banned Post --The Winner is! 928 G Van Doren 03/16/2007 07:26AM
  Re: Recipient of the First Forum Banned Post --The Winner is! 1005 MIJ 03/16/2007 08:29AM
  Re: Recipient of the First Forum Banned Post --The Winner is! 1021 G Van Doren 03/16/2007 09:39AM
  Re: Recipient of the First Forum Banned Post --The Winner is! 1020 PMK140 03/16/2007 11:36AM
  Re: Recipient of the First Forum Banned Post --The Winner is! 959 PMK140 03/16/2007 10:32AM
  Re: Recipient of the First Forum Banned Post --The Winner is! 987 Mike H. 03/16/2007 08:09AM
  Re: Recipient of the First Forum Banned Post --The Winner is! 1068 Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant 03/15/2007 11:53PM
  Re: Recipient of the First Forum Banned Post --The Winner is! 1126 G Van Doren 03/16/2007 08:09AM
  Re: Recipient of the First Forum Banned Post --The Winner is! 1105 firecop5002 03/16/2007 09:01AM
  Re: Dave's Response 1088 Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant 03/16/2007 11:01AM
  Re: Dave's Response 995 firecop5002 03/16/2007 12:00PM
  Re: Dave's Response 967 Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant 03/16/2007 12:09PM
  Your statement is misleading.... 924 G Van Doren 03/16/2007 12:22PM
  Re: Recipient of the First Forum Banned Post --The Winner is! 1003 K Vanderpool 03/17/2007 08:10PM
  Re: Recipient of the First Forum Banned Post --The Winner is! 953 firecop5002 03/18/2007 11:55AM
  Response to George 1241 Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant 03/16/2007 10:47AM
  Re: Response to George 1096 G Van Doren 03/16/2007 11:38AM
  Re: Response to George 1008 G Van Doren 03/16/2007 12:04PM
  Re: Recipient of the First Forum Banned Post --The Winner is! 952 PMK140 03/16/2007 10:34AM
  Re: Recipient of the First Forum Banned Post --The Winner is! 1050 dahebert 03/16/2007 11:34AM
  Re: Recipient of the First Forum Banned Post --The Winner is! 1012 G Van Doren 03/16/2007 11:54AM
  Re: Recipient of the First Forum Banned Post --The Winner is! 941 dahebert 03/16/2007 12:42PM
  Re: Recipient of the First Forum Banned Post --The Winner is! 980 PMK140 03/16/2007 12:50PM
  Re: Recipient of the First Forum Banned Post --The Winner is! 914 dahebert 03/16/2007 12:53PM
  Re: Recipient of the First Forum Banned Post --The Winner is! 902 G Van Doren 03/16/2007 01:15PM
  Re: Recipient of the First Forum Banned Post --The Winner is! 973 dahebert 03/16/2007 01:44PM
  Re: Recipient of the First Forum Banned Post --The Winner is! 1027 G Van Doren 03/16/2007 01:59PM
  Re: Recipient of the First Forum Banned Post --The Winner is! 987 dahebert 03/17/2007 04:27PM
  Re: Recipient of the First Forum Banned Post --The Winner is! 984 MIJ 03/18/2007 11:59AM
  Re: Recipient of the First Forum Banned Post --The Winner is! 921 firecop5002 03/18/2007 12:20PM
  Re: Recipient of the First Forum Banned Post --The Winner is! 1055 John J. Lentini, CFEI 03/18/2007 09:10PM


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