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Re: Notification of Interested Parties
Posted by: efc (IP Logged)
Date: August 15, 2008 07:35PM

Not saying you are the one pushing this trend, and I apologize if that came across that way. Yes, the trend with some attorneys is to attack the messenger when the facts do not support your position. I do not believe you need to justify your reasoning for making the suggestion, but I ask that all of us take a step back before we make any suggestions that can affect a person livelihood. It is hard to know beyond a doubt that the person knew his conclusion was wrong and continued to peruse an agenda to do harm to his fellow man.

I do not look at a specific individual, but at the actions. What I was saying if the courts have chose not to stop him then who am I to disagree with the court. As to his reasons for not getting certified, I may disagree, but that is his decision.

Let’s look at you next comment. Your posting was, “You stated: "Your own statement gives credence to the complaints in that what does attacking ABC for violating an in-house policy have to do with the quality of the investigators investigation." If the person is not licensed as a PI and not certified by NAFI or IAAI, and does not follow even some of the most basic principals of NFPA 921, then that directly goes to the credibility of their investigations. I don't mean nit-pick point by point, but when you fail to interview witnesses, fail to obtain fire reports and photographs, do not secure important evidence in the case, then yes, you should be help liable for your $#$#$-ups.” I know many of public fire investigators that are not CFI’s or CFEI’s and they state openly they disagree with 921. Their department restricts the taking of photographs, and they are not allowed to interview witnesses. I know this sounds impossible, but they do exist. Does this mean this person cannot accurately investigate a fire? If one were to except this logic, then before there was 921, CFEI’s and CFI’s there were no valid investigations conducted.

I made an assumption in part, but was correct in the fact that it was a legal document. You said, “the person has received a Cease & Desist Order identifying him operating as a private investigator, not an expert, and to this day, he is still violating that order.” Now it is my understanding that it is you that either knows or believes he is still violating the law, but the fact is then governmental agency has not till this time found his violating the order.

All I am saying is that they are using in my eye a method of intimidation, and I would love to put that policy before a jury.



Subject Views Written By Posted
  Presumption of Inncemce 1777 Mark Goodson 08/10/2008 09:29AM
  Re: Presumption of Inncemce 999 djn441 08/10/2008 01:09PM
  Re: Presumption of Inncemce 897 Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant 08/13/2008 02:04PM
  Re: Presumption of Inncemce 978 MLJ 08/10/2008 04:35PM
  Re: Presumption of Inncemce 858 Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant 08/13/2008 02:10PM
  Re: Presumption of Inncemce 880 PMK140 08/13/2008 05:46PM
  Re: Presumption of Inncemce 943 Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant 08/13/2008 10:06PM
  Re: Notification of Interested Parties 1105 PMK140 08/15/2008 05:25AM
  Re: Notification of Interested Parties 869 efc 08/15/2008 07:27AM
  Re: Notification of Interested Parties 952 Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant 08/15/2008 08:55AM
  Re: Notification of Interested Parties 904 efc 08/15/2008 09:05AM
  Re: Notification of Interested Parties 893 Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant 08/15/2008 09:22AM
  Re: Notification of Interested Parties 913 John J. Lentini, CFEI 08/15/2008 04:16PM
  Re: Notification of Interested Parties 884 Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant 08/15/2008 04:40PM
  Re: Notification of Interested Parties 929 Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant 08/15/2008 09:16AM
  Re: Notification of Interested Parties 945 efc 08/15/2008 12:04PM
  Re: Notification of Interested Parties 1128 PMK140 08/15/2008 04:03PM
  Re: Notification of Interested Parties 1000 Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant 08/15/2008 04:59PM
  Re: Notification of Interested Parties 884 John J. Lentini, CFEI 08/15/2008 05:09PM
  Re: Notification of Interested Parties 811 Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant 08/15/2008 05:23PM
  Re: Notification of Interested Parties 907 efc 08/15/2008 05:34PM
  Re: Notification of Interested Parties 1046 Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant 08/15/2008 06:30PM
  Re: Notification of Interested Parties 892 efc 08/15/2008 07:35PM
  Re: Notification of Interested Parties 868 Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant 08/15/2008 10:08PM
  Re: Notification of Interested Parties 879 efc 08/16/2008 12:30PM
  Re: Notification of Interested Parties 977 Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant 08/16/2008 06:27PM
  Re: Notification of Interested Parties 852 efc 08/16/2008 07:08PM
  Re: Notification of Interested Parties 886 Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant 08/16/2008 07:24PM
  Re: Notification of Interested Parties 913 John J. Lentini, CFEI 08/15/2008 09:16PM
  Re: Contract Clause 816 Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant 08/17/2008 11:33AM
  Re: Presumption of Inncemce 942 Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant 08/15/2008 05:02PM
  Re: Presumption of Inncemce 949 efc 08/10/2008 05:08PM
  Re: Presumption of Innocence 2215 John J. Lentini, CFEI 08/10/2008 06:18PM
  Re: Presumption of Innocence 908 efc 08/10/2008 07:49PM
  Re: Presumption of Innocence 882 MIJ 08/11/2008 06:57AM
  Re: Presumption of Inncemce 853 Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant 08/13/2008 02:05PM


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