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Presumption of Inncemce
Posted by: Mark Goodson (IP Logged)
Date: August 10, 2008 09:29AM

Much was written in the discussion on Accidental Fires & the Presumption of Evidence. There was even a definition of Presumption of Innocence taken from Blacks. I don't think anyone here is suggesting that this concept be abandoned. But in reading the posts, there appeared (to my mind) to be confusion.

The presumption of innocence is a legal concept that requires a jury to go into a case with no pre conceived ideas, and that the jurors will not vote to convict until evidence beyond reasonable doubt has been shown.

Is anyone suggesting that there be a presumption of innocence in investigations? What is a 'person of interest' if there is a presumption of innocence? In homicide investigations, it is not uncommon for persons to have to provide an alibi (ie, prove their innocence) in order to be removed from consideration as a suspect.

I am an engineer, and so these questions regarding guilt and innocence are not factors in my usual caseload. I would like to hear what others say.

Thanks...



Subject Views Written By Posted
  Presumption of Inncemce 1776 Mark Goodson 08/10/2008 09:29AM
  Re: Presumption of Inncemce 999 djn441 08/10/2008 01:09PM
  Re: Presumption of Inncemce 897 Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant 08/13/2008 02:04PM
  Re: Presumption of Inncemce 978 MLJ 08/10/2008 04:35PM
  Re: Presumption of Inncemce 858 Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant 08/13/2008 02:10PM
  Re: Presumption of Inncemce 880 PMK140 08/13/2008 05:46PM
  Re: Presumption of Inncemce 943 Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant 08/13/2008 10:06PM
  Re: Notification of Interested Parties 1105 PMK140 08/15/2008 05:25AM
  Re: Notification of Interested Parties 869 efc 08/15/2008 07:27AM
  Re: Notification of Interested Parties 952 Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant 08/15/2008 08:55AM
  Re: Notification of Interested Parties 904 efc 08/15/2008 09:05AM
  Re: Notification of Interested Parties 893 Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant 08/15/2008 09:22AM
  Re: Notification of Interested Parties 912 John J. Lentini, CFEI 08/15/2008 04:16PM
  Re: Notification of Interested Parties 884 Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant 08/15/2008 04:40PM
  Re: Notification of Interested Parties 929 Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant 08/15/2008 09:16AM
  Re: Notification of Interested Parties 945 efc 08/15/2008 12:04PM
  Re: Notification of Interested Parties 1128 PMK140 08/15/2008 04:03PM
  Re: Notification of Interested Parties 999 Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant 08/15/2008 04:59PM
  Re: Notification of Interested Parties 884 John J. Lentini, CFEI 08/15/2008 05:09PM
  Re: Notification of Interested Parties 810 Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant 08/15/2008 05:23PM
  Re: Notification of Interested Parties 907 efc 08/15/2008 05:34PM
  Re: Notification of Interested Parties 1046 Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant 08/15/2008 06:30PM
  Re: Notification of Interested Parties 892 efc 08/15/2008 07:35PM
  Re: Notification of Interested Parties 868 Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant 08/15/2008 10:08PM
  Re: Notification of Interested Parties 879 efc 08/16/2008 12:30PM
  Re: Notification of Interested Parties 977 Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant 08/16/2008 06:27PM
  Re: Notification of Interested Parties 852 efc 08/16/2008 07:08PM
  Re: Notification of Interested Parties 886 Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant 08/16/2008 07:24PM
  Re: Notification of Interested Parties 913 John J. Lentini, CFEI 08/15/2008 09:16PM
  Re: Contract Clause 816 Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant 08/17/2008 11:33AM
  Re: Presumption of Inncemce 942 Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant 08/15/2008 05:02PM
  Re: Presumption of Inncemce 949 efc 08/10/2008 05:08PM
  Re: Presumption of Innocence 2215 John J. Lentini, CFEI 08/10/2008 06:18PM
  Re: Presumption of Innocence 908 efc 08/10/2008 07:49PM
  Re: Presumption of Innocence 882 MIJ 08/11/2008 06:57AM
  Re: Presumption of Inncemce 853 Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant 08/13/2008 02:05PM


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