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Re: Acceptable Level of Certainty
Posted by: Jim Mazerat (IP Logged)
Date: February 04, 2007 05:12PM

Jim

You are right about taking the heat on this subject, but I really do not mine. Not sure many will want to comment in the open on this subject. What brought this about was an expert’s answer in a deposition. He said his findings met the standard of our industry because the confidence level of certainty that his opinion was correct was greater than 50%. After reading the expert’s deposition I did research to see if what he was saying was true and found out he was right. Then I put myself in the position of being the person having the fire. Then I got scared. If this is our industry standard, what does it say about our industry. If I play red or black at a roulette table I have a 50% chance of being right. Is that all we are capable of doing?

I believe the level of certainty for determining both the origin and the cause should not be based on a percentage. You either know or do not know, but one can not have it in the middle. I understand the 50% deals with the level of proving most civil cases, but I do not think it should have anything to do with the level of determining the origin and cause.

Pat made a suggestion for 921 to include a third level of what he renamed confidence. The word he used for this level was "Certain". His idea better explain the different levels, but it was shot down. In their statement of explanation for the rejection, the committee said, “Although the committee believes that the current text needs modification, the committee does not believe this proposal resolves the issue.” This to me indicates the committee recognizes there is a problem using the present text in the document. I did not see in the ROP where they addressed this problem and made the necessary corrections.


I thought this would bring a comment from you, and I am glad to see you feel the same way I do.



Subject Views Written By Posted
  Acceptable Level of Certainty 1671 Jim Mazerat 02/03/2007 09:47PM
  Re: Acceptable Level of Certainty 1053 Jim Mazerat 02/04/2007 12:11PM
  Re: Acceptable Level of Certainty 919 MIJ 02/04/2007 02:37PM
  Re: Acceptable Level of Certainty 1089 Jim Mazerat 02/04/2007 05:12PM
  Re: Acceptable Level of Certainty 1000 jmorse 02/04/2007 07:15PM
  Re: Acceptable Level of Certainty 941 Jim Mazerat 02/05/2007 10:37AM
  Re: Acceptable Level of Certainty 1010 MIJ 02/05/2007 11:35AM
  Re: Acceptable Level of Certainty 949 jgmcfps 02/08/2007 11:09AM
  One more comment 948 jgmcfps 02/08/2007 11:13AM
  Re: Acceptable Level of Certainty 1035 Jim Mazerat 02/08/2007 11:55AM
  Re: Acceptable Level of Certainty 887 jgmcfps 02/08/2007 02:59PM
  Re: Acceptable Level of Certainty 882 SJAvato 02/08/2007 03:59PM
  Re: Acceptable Level of Certainty 1020 Jim Mazerat 02/08/2007 05:15PM
  Re: Acceptable Level of Certainty 917 Jim Mazerat 02/08/2007 05:21PM
  Define "probable" 987 Gerald Hurst 02/14/2007 01:05PM
  Re: Define "probable" 1006 PMK140 02/14/2007 04:12PM
  Re: Define "probable" 947 Gerald Hurst 02/14/2007 10:20PM
  Re: Acceptable Level of Certainty 951 jbflanigan 02/05/2007 04:22PM
  Re: Acceptable Level of Certainty 886 Jim Mazerat 02/08/2007 12:13PM
  Re: Acceptable Level of Certainty 855 MIJ 02/08/2007 06:02PM
  Re: Acceptable Level of Certainty 983 Jim Mazerat 02/08/2007 08:10PM
  Re: Acceptable Level of Certainty 953 MIJ 02/09/2007 09:47AM
  Re: Acceptable Level of Certainty 894 jgmcfps 02/09/2007 02:12PM
  Re: Acceptable Level of Certainty 904 MIJ 02/09/2007 03:09PM
  Re: Acceptable Level of Certainty 899 jgmcfps 02/09/2007 04:50PM
  Re: Acceptable Level of Certainty 896 firecop5002 02/09/2007 08:17PM
  Re: Acceptable Level of Certainty 873 Jim Mazerat 02/09/2007 10:01PM
  Re: Acceptable Level of Certainty 826 dahebert 02/10/2007 08:12AM
  Re: Acceptable Level of Certainty 925 Jim Mazerat 02/09/2007 08:17PM
  Re: Acceptable Level of Certainty 1047 jgmcfps 02/10/2007 02:40PM
  Re: Acceptable Level of Certainty 877 Jim Mazerat 02/10/2007 04:36PM
  Re: Acceptable Level of Certainty 1005 jgmcfps 02/11/2007 08:16AM
  Re: Acceptable Level of Certainty 968 Jim Mazerat 02/11/2007 09:10AM
  Re: Acceptable Level of Certainty 1170 John J. Lentini, CFEI 02/16/2007 02:48PM
  Re: Acceptable Level of Certainty 1141 PMK140 02/16/2007 04:30PM
  Re: Acceptable Level of Certainty 973 Jim Mazerat 02/16/2007 07:11PM


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