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Re: Fire Cause Classification
Posted by: J L Mazerat (IP Logged)
Date: May 09, 2022 10:44AM

First, I would like to address the word incendiary as found in the latest edition of 921. NFPA 921 defines Incendiary Fire as being a fire that is intentionally ignited in an area or under circumstances where and when there should not be a fire.

I believe the use of the term Incendiary, when talking about the cause of a fire, is now in conflict with the intent of the committee to remove the classification section without a better explanation within the document. Maybe it would be better in that chapter to say a fire starting with a deliberate action of an individual which may or may not have anything to do with a criminal intent. Presently, 921 is suggesting that an Incendiary Fire is a criminal intent, thereby they have just classified the cause of the fire.

If 921 would just stick to the determination of the fuel ignited and the source of heat igniting the fuel it would achieve the goal, they state they were trying to achieve when the abolished the classification chapter and that is to keep the document to determining the fire cause. In doing this they would stay true to their intent.

So now what the investigator would be determining is a fire that originated due to the actions of a person. The investigator would not be determining the intent of the person to reach a conclusion as to how the fire started. The intent would be a different segment of the investigation. This segment could be conducted by the same individual or a different individual. This would bifurcate the investigation into two parts. The first to determine a fire cause and the second to determine an intent of a person directly involved in the cause. This way the fire cause uses the methodology as outlined in 921 for its determination and a different methodology is used to determining the reasons behind a person’s actions.

Jim Mazerat
Forensic Investigations Group



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  Re: Fire Cause Classification 260 dcarpenter 05/12/2022 09:12AM
  Re: Fire Cause Classification 259 J L Mazerat 05/12/2022 11:56AM
  Re: Fire Cause Classification 258 dcarpenter 05/12/2022 12:28PM
  Re: Fire Cause Classification 273 J L Mazerat 05/12/2022 12:46PM
  Re: Fire Cause Classification 283 J L Mazerat 05/09/2022 10:44AM
  Re: Fire Cause Classification 280 dcarpenter 05/09/2022 08:30PM
  Re: Fire Cause Classification 250 J L Mazerat 05/10/2022 08:52AM
  Re: Fire Cause Classification 297 dcarpenter 05/10/2022 09:56AM
  Re: Fire Cause Classification 247 dcarpenter 05/10/2022 09:59AM
  Re: Fire Cause Classification 244 dcarpenter 05/10/2022 11:25AM
  Re: Fire Cause Classification 251 J L Mazerat 05/11/2022 05:54PM
  Re: Fire Cause Classification 246 dcarpenter 05/12/2022 09:15AM
  Re: Fire Cause Classification 255 J L Mazerat 05/12/2022 11:50AM
  Re: Fire Cause Classification 249 dcarpenter 05/12/2022 12:35PM
  Re: Fire Cause Classification 253 J L Mazerat 05/12/2022 02:18PM
  Re: Fire Cause Classification 257 dcarpenter 05/13/2022 08:48AM
  Re: Fire Cause Classification 237 J L Mazerat 05/13/2022 05:09PM
  Re: Fire Cause Classification 227 cda 06/15/2022 01:12PM
  Re: Fire Cause Classification 283 J L Mazerat 05/11/2022 05:51PM
  Re: Fire Cause Classification 248 dcarpenter 05/12/2022 09:18AM
  Re: Fire Cause Classification 254 J L Mazerat 05/12/2022 11:59AM
  Re: Fire Cause Classification 268 dcarpenter 05/12/2022 12:36PM
  Re: Fire Cause Classification 254 J L Mazerat 05/12/2022 02:21PM
  Re: Fire Cause Classification 228 SJAvato 06/30/2022 10:57AM
  Re: Fire Cause Classification 221 J L Mazerat 07/01/2022 09:27AM
  Re: Fire Cause Classification 224 dcarpenter 07/01/2022 01:26PM
  Re: Fire Cause Classification 228 SJAvato 07/01/2022 03:43PM
  Re: Fire Cause Classification 207 J L Mazerat 07/03/2022 10:03AM
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  Re: Fire Cause Classification 216 dcarpenter 07/05/2022 09:32AM
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