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Re: Absolutely Incredible
Posted by: Ray C. Davis, Fire Loss Expert (IP Logged)
Date: October 21, 2006 12:16AM

Finally, some one got back to the intent of this thread. LOCKS! I should never have started this thread because as always, Pat & his girlfriend Steveareno, have to turn it into something that it is not. If every scene investigator used a system to investigate a fire, and used it the same way every time, no court will stop you from testifing to what you did if you do. You must make sure it conforms to all of the writen texts that are out there, including 921. If you determine that a fire it set and you can not tell your client or the court the condition of the security of the fire scene what good have you done for your client or your case? If you find the fire cause is accidental what have you lost checking the locks? Nothing, but you continue to gain experance. The time will come when the security of the structure will make the case. It's only one part of the fire scene but I have watched many State Fire Marshall's and other public investigators as well as private investigators not pay attention to the locks in a structure and who had the keys. You always run a risk of not being able to say a stranger broke in, we see that kind of scene everyday, but if you don't do it every time you are at a scene you are giving away to the dude who did the dirty deed.



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  Scene security-Locks 2497 Ray C. Davis, Fire Loss Expert 10/20/2006 10:35AM
  Re: Scene security-Locks 1276 RCox 10/20/2006 10:55AM
  Re: Scene security-Locks 1290 Ray C. Davis, Fire Loss Expert 10/20/2006 11:45AM
  Re: Scene security-Locks 1369 SJAvato 10/20/2006 12:03PM
  Re: Scene security-Locks 1233 MIJ 10/20/2006 11:56AM
  Re: Scene security-Locks 1364 Ray C. Davis, Fire Loss Expert 10/20/2006 12:44PM
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  Re: Absolutely Incredible 1305 Ray C. Davis, Fire Loss Expert 10/20/2006 02:22PM
  Re: Absolutely Incredible 1424 PMK140 10/20/2006 02:54PM
  Re: Absolutely Incredible 1186 Jim Mazerat 10/20/2006 03:21PM
  Re: Absolutely Incredible 1231 PMK140 10/20/2006 03:44PM
  Re: Absolutely Incredible 1157 Jim Mazerat 10/20/2006 03:57PM
  Re: Absolutely Incredible 1228 Jim Mazerat 10/20/2006 04:22PM
  Re: Absolutely Incredible 1367 SJAvato 10/20/2006 04:28PM
  Re: Absolutely Incredible 1345 PMK140 10/20/2006 04:47PM
  Re: Absolutely Incredible 1188 MIJ 10/20/2006 04:54PM
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  Re: Clarification 1011 G Van Doren 11/03/2006 04:26PM
  Re: Absolutely Incredible 1339 firecop5002 10/20/2006 07:18PM
  Re: Absolutely Incredible 1233 Ray C. Davis, Fire Loss Expert 10/21/2006 12:16AM
  Re: Absolutely Incredible 1109 SJAvato 10/21/2006 10:05PM
  Re: Absolutely Incredible 1124 PMK140 10/22/2006 07:51AM
  Re: Absolutely Incredible 1176 dahebert 10/23/2006 09:11AM
  Re: Absolutely Incredible 1124 Ray C. Davis, Fire Loss Expert 10/23/2006 12:31PM
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  Re: Absolutely Incredible 1095 Jim Mazerat 10/25/2006 10:02AM
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  Re: Absolutely Incredible 1239 John J. Lentini, CFEI 10/25/2006 08:57PM
  Re: Absolutely Incredible 1197 Jim Mazerat 10/25/2006 09:19PM
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