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Re: National Geographic: Forensics under fire 10/12 at 10PM
Date: October 18, 2006 11:55AM
Adam.. what I am saying is you can't stand in the driveway with 921 in your hand and process the scene. From experience I know I have to speak to firemen, the fire marshal and neighbors if I can, possibly the owner/renter before I enter the scene to know what they have done and if they have an opinion. If they have an opinion you tuck it away and then see what the scene tells you in physical evidence. It may or may not be an arson, it may be a stupid mistake by the home owner/renter. It may be many other things other than arson, no matter what previous visiters have said. What you can not do is go line for line in 921 to find your answers. Many times I have had to dig out piles of fire debris and replace many items back inside just to understand what happened. Some scenes are somewhat easy and some are not. I am not afriad to call a fire "undetermed" but prefer not to. In that scene some where is some physical evidence that will tell me what happed, if someone hasen't hauled it off.
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