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Re: National Geographic: Forensics under fire 10/12 at 10PM
Posted by:
ttijerina (IP Logged)
Date: October 20, 2006 05:20AM
I think the problem may not be that NFPA 921 exists, standard or not. The problem is the way in which it is used. The interpretation of fire scenes is completed by investigators, factual data is collected, analyzed, hypotheses developed and tested, opinions are developed and duly reported in the form and manner required. The case ends up in litigation and the first word out of the opposing expert’s mouth is that I follow NFPA 921 and the original investigator did not follow it; therefore, they are, old fashioned, an archaic idiot, just plain wrong. Litigation exists to settle disagreements between men without arms. If all parties would just address the issues and present them to the jury or judge for deliberation much of this argument would disappear. I know, I am going to hear that there are investigators out there that fail to live up to the expectations of all, they don’t deserve to walk the fire scene unchecked or unsupervised all of their opinion should be developed written and posted on this forum for final approval before they can be submitted to their respective clients. Use NFPA 921 as the tool in which it was designed to help develop and improve your abilities on the fire ground.
Tony Tijerina
Tijerina Investigations, Inc.
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