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Re: National Geographic: Forensics under fire 10/12 at 10PM
Posted by: MIJ (IP Logged)
Date: October 18, 2006 12:47PM

Ray C. Davis, Fire Loss Expert Wrote:
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> Adam.. what I am saying is you can't stand in the
> driveway with 921 in your hand and process the
> scene. From experience I know I have to speak to
> firemen, the fire marshal and neighbors if I can,
> possibly the owner/renter before I enter the scene
> to know what they have done and if they have an
> opinion. If they have an opinion you tuck it away
> and then see what the scene tells you in physical
> evidence. It may or may not be an arson, it may be
> a stupid mistake by the home owner/renter. It may
> be many other things other than arson, no matter
> what previous visiters have said. What you can not
> do is go line for line in 921 to find your
> answers. Many times I have had to dig out piles of
> fire debris and replace many items back inside
> just to understand what happened. Some scenes are
> somewhat easy and some are not. I am not afriad to
> call a fire "undetermed" but prefer not to. In
> that scene some where is some physical evidence
> that will tell me what happed, if someone hasen't
> hauled it off.

Isn't this exactly why there needs to be a standard. How many more are there ?

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  National Geographic: Forensics under fire 10/12 at 10PM 2383 John J. Lentini, CFEI 10/11/2006 11:20AM
  Re: National Geographic: Forensics under fire 10/12 at 10PM 1298 MIJ 10/13/2006 02:57PM
  Re: National Geographic: Forensics under fire 10/12 at 10PM 1296 PMK140 10/14/2006 06:30AM
  Re: National Geographic: Forensics under fire 10/12 at 10PM 1368 Tony La Palio 10/16/2006 01:45PM
  Re: National Geographic: Forensics under fire 10/12 at 10PM 1285 MIJ 10/16/2006 03:24PM
  Re: National Geographic: Forensics under fire 10/12 at 10PM 1245 PMK140 10/16/2006 07:10PM
  Re: National Geographic: Forensics under fire 10/12 at 10PM 1229 MIJ 10/16/2006 08:17PM
  Re: National Geographic: Forensics under fire 10/12 at 10PM 1136 Jim Mazerat 10/18/2006 10:30AM
  Re: National Geographic: Forensics under fire 10/12 at 10PM 1246 Ray C. Davis, Fire Loss Expert 10/17/2006 12:23PM
  Re: National Geographic: Forensics under fire 10/12 at 10PM 1179 MIJ 10/17/2006 01:13PM
  Re: National Geographic: Forensics under fire 10/12 at 10PM 1305 PMK140 10/17/2006 01:15PM
  Re: National Geographic: Forensics under fire 10/12 at 10PM 1165 ttijerina 10/17/2006 01:42PM
  Re: National Geographic: Forensics under fire 10/12 at 10PM 1209 PMK140 10/17/2006 02:03PM
  Re: National Geographic: Forensics under fire 10/12 at 10PM 1180 MIJ 10/17/2006 02:21PM
  Re: National Geographic: Forensics under fire 10/12 at 10PM 1155 Ray C. Davis, Fire Loss Expert 10/17/2006 02:42PM
  Re: National Geographic: Forensics under fire 10/12 at 10PM 1191 Ray C. Davis, Fire Loss Expert 10/17/2006 02:54PM
  Re: National Geographic: Forensics under fire 10/12 at 10PM 1150 PMK140 10/17/2006 03:12PM
  Re: National Geographic: Forensics under fire 10/12 at 10PM 1166 Ray C. Davis, Fire Loss Expert 10/17/2006 03:38PM
  Re: National Geographic: Forensics under fire 10/12 at 10PM 1249 PMK140 10/17/2006 02:56PM
  Re: National Geographic: Forensics under fire 10/12 at 10PM 1144 Ray C. Davis, Fire Loss Expert 10/17/2006 03:42PM
  Re: National Geographic: Forensics under fire 10/12 at 10PM 1215 PMK140 10/17/2006 04:24PM
  Re: National Geographic: Forensics under fire 10/12 at 10PM 1282 PMK140 10/17/2006 02:48PM
  Re: National Geographic: Forensics under fire 10/12 at 10PM 1114 MIJ 10/17/2006 05:25PM
  Re: National Geographic: Forensics under fire 10/12 at 10PM 1153 MIJ 10/17/2006 05:39PM
  Re: National Geographic: Forensics under fire 10/12 at 10PM 1214 PMK140 10/17/2006 06:03PM
  Re: National Geographic: Forensics under fire 10/12 at 10PM 1141 PMK140 10/17/2006 06:07PM
  Re: National Geographic: Forensics under fire 10/12 at 10PM 1157 Ray C. Davis, Fire Loss Expert 10/17/2006 06:16PM
  Re: National Geographic: Forensics under fire 10/12 at 10PM 1214 PMK140 10/17/2006 06:26PM
  Re: National Geographic: Forensics under fire 10/12 at 10PM 1265 Ray C. Davis, Fire Loss Expert 10/17/2006 06:13PM
  Re: National Geographic: Forensics under fire 10/12 at 10PM 1103 PMK140 10/17/2006 06:20PM
  Re: National Geographic: Forensics under fire 10/12 at 10PM 1258 MIJ 10/17/2006 06:26PM
  Re: National Geographic: Forensics under fire 10/12 at 10PM 1314 Ray C. Davis, Fire Loss Expert 10/17/2006 06:50PM
  Re: National Geographic: Forensics under fire 10/12 at 10PM 1269 Ray C. Davis, Fire Loss Expert 10/17/2006 06:53PM
  Re: National Geographic: Forensics under fire 10/12 at 10PM 1136 PMK140 10/17/2006 07:08PM
  Re: National Geographic: Forensics under fire 10/12 at 10PM 1215 MIJ 10/17/2006 07:13PM
  Re: National Geographic: Forensics under fire 10/12 at 10PM 1146 ttijerina 10/18/2006 06:02AM
  Re: National Geographic: Forensics under fire 10/12 at 10PM 1217 John J. Lentini, CFEI 10/18/2006 08:06AM
  Re: National Geographic: Forensics under fire 10/12 at 10PM 1135 firecop5002 10/18/2006 11:00PM
  Re: National Geographic: Forensics under fire 10/12 at 10PM 2095 PMK140 10/19/2006 07:41AM
  Re: National Geographic: Forensics under fire 10/12 at 10PM 1173 firecop5002 10/19/2006 10:54AM
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  Re: National Geographic: Forensics under fire 10/12 at 10PM 1201 John J. Lentini, CFEI 10/19/2006 08:59AM
  Re: National Geographic: Forensics under fire 10/12 at 10PM 1144 Jim Mazerat 10/19/2006 10:57AM
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  Re: National Geographic: Forensics under fire 10/12 at 10PM 1185 Adam Holloway 10/17/2006 07:05PM
  Re: National Geographic: Forensics under fire 10/12 at 10PM 1170 Ray C. Davis, Fire Loss Expert 10/18/2006 08:21AM
  Re: National Geographic: Forensics under fire 10/12 at 10PM 1202 Adam Holloway 10/18/2006 08:58AM
  Re: National Geographic: Forensics under fire 10/12 at 10PM 1048 Ray C. Davis, Fire Loss Expert 10/18/2006 11:55AM
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  Re: National Geographic: Forensics under fire 10/12 at 10PM 1069 MIJ 10/18/2006 10:56AM
  Re: National Geographic: Forensics under fire 10/12 at 10PM 1250 Jim Mazerat 10/18/2006 11:44AM
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  Re: National Geographic: Forensics under fire 10/12 at 10PM 1012 Jim Mazerat 10/18/2006 01:40PM
  Re: National Geographic: Forensics under fire 10/12 at 10PM 1177 MIJ 10/18/2006 02:17PM
  Re: National Geographic: Forensics under fire 10/12 at 10PM 1192 Jim Mazerat 10/18/2006 05:35PM
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