Jim It is obvious you are more then capable of testing your own hypothesis. You continue to miss my point. It's not me having a better way. My unrest is the inability of someone who is responsible for having an effect on someone who has already suffered the trauma of a fire. Doesn't it trouble you how so many lack the ability to complete their own investigation? What's really troubling is the posters on this forum are the ones who care. Almost every thread has several suggestions on how something should be done. Who is right? Who is wrong? The who is wrong is what scares me. It's the effect of being wrong. This forum points out the facts that have been gathered from the evolution of mistakes that were made. Not enough is made of the mistakes that continue. How do we try to eliminate the investigation that continues to be flawed? It s hard to except most investigators or most courts or almost all insurance companies recognize 921. I'll give it a rest for now. But I will wait for one of the many chances to insert my point of view.