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Re: So no causes what do yall think.
Posted by: J L Mazerat (IP Logged)
Date: July 20, 2021 10:59AM
What data would have from a person’s mine? I agree, the SM requires “Evidence” (data) that can be verified for the hypothesis to no be able to be disprove.
What evidence (data) does the investigator develop to prove intent that can be tested to show what the person was thinking?
What you are saying is that without the classification, the investigator cannot classification a fire. Is this true? Let’s look at who this removal will affect. The public sector is much larger than the private sector because of this let’s look at the public sector. Does NFPA say that because the classification no longer the investigator cannot classify a fire? Does the removal of the chapter from NFPA 921 inhibit the investigator for having a guide to use in the classification process? Now let’s talk about the private sector. Is there anything published stating since the classification chapter was removed from NFPA 921 a private fire investigator cannot classify a fire?
There is nothing in the action of NFPA that prohibits an investigator from classifying a fire. There is another good source for the investigator to use. NIFRS outline an excellent method for classifying.
How can one say the fire investigation community is kicking the can down the road? The only change was the removal of classification from NFPA 921. Is this the only document that can be used by fire investigators? If they can still determine a classification, by whatever means, how is the classification being kicked to another community? It sounds like fire investigators are afraid to use something that is not contained in NFPA 921.
Jim Mazerat
Forensic Investigations Group
What evidence (data) does the investigator develop to prove intent that can be tested to show what the person was thinking?
What you are saying is that without the classification, the investigator cannot classification a fire. Is this true? Let’s look at who this removal will affect. The public sector is much larger than the private sector because of this let’s look at the public sector. Does NFPA say that because the classification no longer the investigator cannot classify a fire? Does the removal of the chapter from NFPA 921 inhibit the investigator for having a guide to use in the classification process? Now let’s talk about the private sector. Is there anything published stating since the classification chapter was removed from NFPA 921 a private fire investigator cannot classify a fire?
There is nothing in the action of NFPA that prohibits an investigator from classifying a fire. There is another good source for the investigator to use. NIFRS outline an excellent method for classifying.
How can one say the fire investigation community is kicking the can down the road? The only change was the removal of classification from NFPA 921. Is this the only document that can be used by fire investigators? If they can still determine a classification, by whatever means, how is the classification being kicked to another community? It sounds like fire investigators are afraid to use something that is not contained in NFPA 921.
Jim Mazerat
Forensic Investigations Group
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