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Re: Undetermined Accidental?
Posted by: Jim Mazerat (IP Logged)
Date: February 01, 2007 03:36PM

In the scenarios you described, what would happen if you did not attempt to classify the fire in your report but only used the facts as outlined in the office fire scenario. I previously mention how I would describe the incident. If asked from the information available at that time what inference would this give to how this fire should be classified, I could then say based on know facts the percentage of confidence for my hypothesis as to the classification trends towards the accidental classification. If later a person confesses and I am asked I can say that the new information is cause for a reconsideration of the hypothesis and that based on these new facts the classification trends towards incendiary.

There was a fire loss a number of years ago where a number of experts all agreed the fire originated at a strip outlet. There was the remains of electrical activity in the remains of the outlet that was consistent with a failure that could produce sufficient heat to ignite near by combustibles. Other than this information there was no specific wording such as accidental used in classifying the fire’s cause. Within a year a person confessed to using paper from the trash can in the room, placing it around the strip outlet and set the fire. Because there was no wording such as accidental used in the reports the fact that a person was confessing was not a problem.



Subject Views Written By Posted
  Undetermined Accidental? 2153 dahebert 01/31/2007 11:21AM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1307 Jim Mazerat 01/31/2007 12:35PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1178 bpeck 02/01/2007 09:23AM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1149 dcarpenter 02/01/2007 10:20AM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1068 MIJ 02/01/2007 10:58AM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1098 Jim Mazerat 02/01/2007 11:46AM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1043 MIJ 02/01/2007 12:18PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 967 Jim Mazerat 02/01/2007 12:46PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 999 MIJ 02/01/2007 02:25PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1026 Jim Mazerat 02/01/2007 04:16PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1028 MIJ 02/01/2007 04:56PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1092 dcarpenter 02/01/2007 12:49PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1020 Jim Mazerat 02/01/2007 11:26AM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1116 dcarpenter 01/31/2007 01:03PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1069 MIJ 01/31/2007 01:11PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1031 dahebert 01/31/2007 03:27PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1189 Jim Mazerat 01/31/2007 03:23PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1134 SJAvato 02/01/2007 11:29AM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1019 MIJ 02/01/2007 12:26PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1034 Jim Mazerat 02/01/2007 12:49PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1170 SJAvato 02/01/2007 02:08PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1020 MIJ 02/01/2007 02:30PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1074 Jim Mazerat 02/01/2007 02:40PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 899 MIJ 02/01/2007 03:17PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 950 Jim Mazerat 02/01/2007 03:38PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1095 Jim Mazerat 02/01/2007 03:36PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1048 MIJ 02/01/2007 05:07PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 983 Jim Mazerat 02/01/2007 07:38PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1032 MIJ 02/02/2007 10:29AM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1069 Gerald Hurst 02/02/2007 11:01AM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 996 MIJ 02/02/2007 01:44PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1070 Jim Mazerat 02/02/2007 11:33AM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 992 dcarpenter 02/02/2007 11:49AM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 986 Jim Mazerat 02/02/2007 02:41PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1087 Jim Mazerat 02/01/2007 12:41PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1035 dcarpenter 02/01/2007 01:07PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 993 Jim Mazerat 02/01/2007 02:10PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 921 MIJ 02/01/2007 03:15PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1610 dcarpenter 02/01/2007 04:39PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1020 SJAvato 02/02/2007 09:37AM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1120 k9team 02/02/2007 10:10AM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1001 Jim Mazerat 02/02/2007 10:22AM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 997 ForensicEEnMD 02/05/2007 05:00PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1001 Jim Mazerat 02/05/2007 08:14PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1125 dahebert 02/06/2007 09:18AM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1073 Jim Mazerat 02/06/2007 09:59AM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1046 dcarpenter 02/06/2007 10:47AM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 997 Jim Mazerat 02/06/2007 11:29AM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1072 dahebert 02/07/2007 03:31PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1023 Jim Mazerat 02/07/2007 03:44PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1114 dahebert 02/07/2007 04:56PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1082 Jim Mazerat 02/07/2007 05:50PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1092 SJAvato 02/07/2007 06:28PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1088 Jim Mazerat 02/08/2007 11:32AM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1082 jgmcfps 02/08/2007 10:54AM
  Re: Hebert, Spelling and Grammar 1136 PMK140 02/02/2007 03:58PM
  Re: Oh, I forgot to add- 1103 PMK140 02/02/2007 04:00PM
  Re: Oh, I forgot to add- 1120 Jim Mazerat 02/02/2007 04:13PM
  Re: Oh, I forgot to add- 1065 dahebert 02/05/2007 12:29PM


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