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Re: Undetermined Accidental?
Posted by: Jim Mazerat (IP Logged)
Date: February 06, 2007 11:29AM

You hit on an even larger problem is that there is almost no data being collected as to the origin and cause of fire based on the investigations conducted by competent investigators. Think of the hundreds of thousands of fire investigated in the private industry each year. What happens to all this data? There is no clearing house or reporting system to collect and evaluate what is being determined as to the cause of these fires. All the information is coming from the fire service and most of the fires are never investigated by a qualified investigator. The only reason I suggested NFIRS was there short descriptive explanation do a better job explaining the event than the four words used in the classification system being recommended in 921. With NFIRS they start off with a generalized term and then with the sub-directory add additional information to explain the event.

My question does the terms, Incendiary, accidental, natural, or undetermined in any way assist the fire safety community in the prevention of future incidents. Would it be better to just say the fire was accidental or to say the cause of ignition was a failure of equipment, and the factor contributing to ignition was the lack of maintenance.



Subject Views Written By Posted
  Undetermined Accidental? 2158 dahebert 01/31/2007 11:21AM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1310 Jim Mazerat 01/31/2007 12:35PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1181 bpeck 02/01/2007 09:23AM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1153 dcarpenter 02/01/2007 10:20AM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1071 MIJ 02/01/2007 10:58AM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1100 Jim Mazerat 02/01/2007 11:46AM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1047 MIJ 02/01/2007 12:18PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 969 Jim Mazerat 02/01/2007 12:46PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1002 MIJ 02/01/2007 02:25PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1028 Jim Mazerat 02/01/2007 04:16PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1031 MIJ 02/01/2007 04:56PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1095 dcarpenter 02/01/2007 12:49PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1024 Jim Mazerat 02/01/2007 11:26AM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1118 dcarpenter 01/31/2007 01:03PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1072 MIJ 01/31/2007 01:11PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1035 dahebert 01/31/2007 03:27PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1191 Jim Mazerat 01/31/2007 03:23PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1138 SJAvato 02/01/2007 11:29AM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1022 MIJ 02/01/2007 12:26PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1037 Jim Mazerat 02/01/2007 12:49PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1172 SJAvato 02/01/2007 02:08PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1023 MIJ 02/01/2007 02:30PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1077 Jim Mazerat 02/01/2007 02:40PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 901 MIJ 02/01/2007 03:17PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 953 Jim Mazerat 02/01/2007 03:38PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1098 Jim Mazerat 02/01/2007 03:36PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1050 MIJ 02/01/2007 05:07PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 987 Jim Mazerat 02/01/2007 07:38PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1034 MIJ 02/02/2007 10:29AM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1071 Gerald Hurst 02/02/2007 11:01AM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 999 MIJ 02/02/2007 01:44PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1074 Jim Mazerat 02/02/2007 11:33AM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 994 dcarpenter 02/02/2007 11:49AM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 989 Jim Mazerat 02/02/2007 02:41PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1089 Jim Mazerat 02/01/2007 12:41PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1040 dcarpenter 02/01/2007 01:07PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 997 Jim Mazerat 02/01/2007 02:10PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 924 MIJ 02/01/2007 03:15PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1612 dcarpenter 02/01/2007 04:39PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1024 SJAvato 02/02/2007 09:37AM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1122 k9team 02/02/2007 10:10AM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1003 Jim Mazerat 02/02/2007 10:22AM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1000 ForensicEEnMD 02/05/2007 05:00PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1005 Jim Mazerat 02/05/2007 08:14PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1127 dahebert 02/06/2007 09:18AM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1075 Jim Mazerat 02/06/2007 09:59AM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1049 dcarpenter 02/06/2007 10:47AM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1000 Jim Mazerat 02/06/2007 11:29AM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1075 dahebert 02/07/2007 03:31PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1025 Jim Mazerat 02/07/2007 03:44PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1116 dahebert 02/07/2007 04:56PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1084 Jim Mazerat 02/07/2007 05:50PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1094 SJAvato 02/07/2007 06:28PM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1092 Jim Mazerat 02/08/2007 11:32AM
  Re: Undetermined Accidental? 1084 jgmcfps 02/08/2007 10:54AM
  Re: Hebert, Spelling and Grammar 1139 PMK140 02/02/2007 03:58PM
  Re: Oh, I forgot to add- 1106 PMK140 02/02/2007 04:00PM
  Re: Oh, I forgot to add- 1125 Jim Mazerat 02/02/2007 04:13PM
  Re: Oh, I forgot to add- 1066 dahebert 02/05/2007 12:29PM


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