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Re: 921 Level of Certainty
Posted by: J L Mazerat (IP Logged)
Date: March 24, 2022 02:47PM

Wow, thanks for the information as to the Action of the Attorney General. I agree there is no legal definition for the term, “reasonable degree of scientific certainty”. My question is what does the person say if the court indicates they will be using reasonable certainty as a point to determine the level of the quality of the opinion, from which a determination will be made as to the person testifying. In the US Eighth Circuit case that is the foundation reasonable certainty it was stated, “If the witness, based upon his background skill, possesses extraordinary training to aid laymen in determining facts and if he bases his answer upon what he believes to be reasonable scientific or engineering certainty, generally the evidence should be admitted, subject, of course, to the cross-examination of the adversary. The weaker the scientific opinion or the less qualified the expert, the more vigorous will be the cross-examining attack and undoubtedly the less persuasive will be the opinion to the trier of fact.” For decades the courts have used this decision when evaluating the reliability of a person’s opinion.

I understand the Attorney General’s action and the opinion of the National Commission on Forensic Science. I can go along with what they are saying. My question has always been what is the number behind the term “degree of scientific certainty”.

There is a legal definition for the term more probable than not. More probable than not means that upon consideration of all of the relevant evidence and materials, a preponderance of the evidence and materials supports the finding.

I agree with you about the 49-point swing. That is why I would suggest that in 921 they use the definition above and drop the point swing. I think the definition above is more inline with your uniquely consistent with the evidence. I totally agree with you about the oversight. At one time the NFPA had a section that dealt with these issues and was not necessarily the committee’s responsibility.

Jim Mazerat
Forensic Investigations Group



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  Re: 921 Level of Certainty 269 J L Mazerat 03/16/2022 12:58PM
  Re: 921 Level of Certainty 264 dcarpenter 03/17/2022 02:35PM
  Re: 921 Level of Certainty 260 J L Mazerat 03/18/2022 09:07AM
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  Re: 921 Level of Certainty 262 J L Mazerat 03/19/2022 12:06PM
  Re: 921 Level of Certainty 254 dcarpenter 03/21/2022 10:42AM
  Re: 921 Level of Certainty 234 J L Mazerat 03/21/2022 05:09PM
  Re: 921 Level of Certainty 238 dcarpenter 03/22/2022 08:46AM
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  Re: 921 Level of Certainty 231 J L Mazerat 03/22/2022 11:48AM
  Re: 921 Level of Certainty 245 J L Mazerat 03/22/2022 11:41AM
  Re: 921 Level of Certainty 235 dcarpenter 03/22/2022 01:16PM
  Re: 921 Level of Certainty 237 J L Mazerat 03/22/2022 02:32PM
  Re: 921 Level of Certainty 257 J L Mazerat 03/19/2022 09:37AM
  Re: 921 Level of Certainty 292 dcarpenter 03/19/2022 10:04AM
  Re: 921 Level of Certainty 253 J L Mazerat 03/19/2022 08:30PM
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  Re: 921 Level of Certainty 243 dcarpenter 03/22/2022 03:18PM
  Re: 921 Level of Certainty 235 J L Mazerat 03/22/2022 05:41PM
  Re: 921 Level of Certainty 244 J L Mazerat 03/22/2022 07:35PM
  Re: 921 Level of Certainty 268 J L Mazerat 03/20/2022 10:40AM
  Re: 921 Level of Certainty 272 cda 03/20/2022 08:27PM
  Re: 921 Level of Certainty 263 J L Mazerat 03/21/2022 08:32PM
  Re: 921 Level of Certainty 252 cda 03/22/2022 09:54AM
  Re: 921 Level of Certainty 251 J L Mazerat 03/23/2022 10:57AM
  Re: 921 Level of Certainty 259 CJN 03/23/2022 08:54PM
  Re: 921 Level of Certainty 257 dcarpenter 03/29/2022 08:26AM
  Re: 921 Level of Certainty 257 dcarpenter 03/29/2022 08:31AM
  Re: 921 Level of Certainty 246 J L Mazerat 03/29/2022 10:55AM
  Re: 921 Level of Certainty 250 J L Mazerat 03/29/2022 10:51AM
  Re: 921 Level of Certainty 264 John Lentini 03/31/2022 03:38PM
  Re: 921 Level of Certainty 268 J L Mazerat 03/31/2022 06:57PM
  Re: 921 Level of Certainty 268 John Lentini 04/01/2022 10:12AM
  Re: 921 Level of Certainty 240 J L Mazerat 04/08/2022 08:37AM
  Re: 921 Level of Certainty 264 J L Mazerat 03/24/2022 02:47PM
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