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Re: Destruction of notes and data
Posted by: Jim Mazerat (IP Logged)
Date: February 17, 2007 01:00PM

John:

I can see some of your point if you are conducting a review of the investigators conclusion, but what you seem to be saying is that the investigator may have information in this raw file that would help your client even to the point of impeaching the investigator’s testimony, is that correct?

I agree with not saving drafts of the reports, and understand your concerns as to not having all the information that was available to the other side because of the fact some information was omitted from the transfer of information to the report. What I have found, when I have had the ability to compare the raw data to the report is that the report will contain more usable information than the raw data. Most investigators have their own short hand, using one key word that they will later expand on when writing the report. There is no way I can understand these one word comments, but when it comes to the expansion of the word in the report the investigator will give me all the information I need and some times more than I asked for to evaluate the findings.

I have seen one post where the person gave a reasonable reason for retaining the raw information. It was done to preempt the other side’s attack. I agreed with his post that when it comes to court there is much weight given to perception of the information supplied by a witness. In this case the fact that the word “destroyed” is used give the jury or judge the perception there was some information available that the person did not want them to see. This is a reason I can accept to influence my decision. Then it comes down to, do I think I can adequately explain my process to where a reasonable person will not infer any wrong with my action.



Subject Views Written By Posted
  Destruction of notes and data 2620 John J. Lentini, CFEI 02/16/2007 02:30PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1417 Jim Mazerat 02/16/2007 07:47PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1418 firecop5002 02/17/2007 12:51AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1460 G Van Doren 02/17/2007 09:59AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1333 Jim Mazerat 02/17/2007 11:00AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1288 PMK140 02/17/2007 10:32AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1290 Jim Mazerat 02/17/2007 11:14AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1272 PMK140 02/17/2007 11:35AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1359 PMK140 02/17/2007 11:38AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1244 Jim Mazerat 02/17/2007 12:17PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1269 John J. Lentini, CFEI 02/17/2007 07:49PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1187 rjschaal 02/17/2007 11:36PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1274 rjschaal 02/17/2007 11:54PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1298 Jim Mazerat 02/17/2007 12:34PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1262 Jim Mazerat 02/17/2007 12:26PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1307 John J. Lentini, CFEI 02/17/2007 10:12PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1212 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 09:08AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1152 firecop5002 02/18/2007 09:31AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1286 firecop5002 02/18/2007 09:45AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1195 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 09:59AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1173 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 10:00AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1174 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 09:55AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1305 John J. Lentini, CFEI 02/21/2007 12:53AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1233 Gerald Hurst 02/21/2007 01:45AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1098 Jim Mazerat 02/21/2007 09:10AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1260 Jim Mazerat 02/17/2007 01:00PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1347 PMK140 02/17/2007 02:20PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1122 Jim Mazerat 02/17/2007 02:51PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1278 ssklar 02/17/2007 03:05PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1127 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 10:23AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1112 ssklar 02/18/2007 12:17PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1306 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 12:39PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1242 ssklar 02/18/2007 04:27PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1217 Jim Mazerat 02/19/2007 08:57PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1219 ssklar 02/23/2007 04:44PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1202 Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant 02/23/2007 06:37PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1316 PMK140 02/25/2007 09:30AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1088 Jim Mazerat 02/23/2007 07:30PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1229 PMK140 02/25/2007 09:39AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1319 Jim Mazerat 02/25/2007 12:07PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1280 Jim Mazerat 02/25/2007 05:43PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1167 Gerald Hurst 02/25/2007 11:21AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1206 MIJ 02/25/2007 12:02PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1245 Jim Mazerat 02/25/2007 12:27PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1153 MIJ 02/25/2007 02:20PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1151 Jim Mazerat 02/25/2007 12:20PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1148 MIJ 02/25/2007 02:23PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1176 Jim Mazerat 02/25/2007 05:32PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1114 MIJ 02/25/2007 08:20PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1187 Jim Mazerat 02/25/2007 09:36PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1275 MIJ 02/25/2007 10:06PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1309 Jim Mazerat 02/25/2007 11:02PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1124 Jim Mazerat 02/25/2007 11:04PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1084 MIJ 02/25/2007 11:19PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1232 Jim Mazerat 02/25/2007 11:54PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1243 PMK140 02/17/2007 04:46PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1277 SJAvato 02/17/2007 06:25PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1865 MIKE 02/17/2007 07:09PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1320 John J. Lentini, CFEI 02/17/2007 08:01PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1278 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 09:26AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1107 Gerald Hurst 02/18/2007 01:14PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1215 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 01:27PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1145 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 01:31PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1154 Gerald Hurst 02/18/2007 03:15PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1265 Hunter B. (Terry) Lacy 02/18/2007 03:31PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1347 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 03:50PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1198 Hunter B. (Terry) Lacy 02/18/2007 04:03PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1115 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 04:21PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1253 PMK140 02/18/2007 07:13PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1155 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 08:24PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1180 PMK140 02/18/2007 08:35PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1268 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 09:16PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1169 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 03:34PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1227 Hunter B. (Terry) Lacy 02/18/2007 03:47PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1160 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 03:59PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1244 Hunter B. (Terry) Lacy 02/18/2007 04:18PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1166 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 04:22PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1225 John J. Lentini, CFEI 02/19/2007 12:16AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1105 Jim Mazerat 02/19/2007 10:03AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1785 Jim Mazerat 02/19/2007 11:16AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1143 PMK140 02/17/2007 09:16PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1241 Anthony Tester 02/17/2007 09:56PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1132 firecop5002 02/17/2007 10:12PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1159 firecop5002 02/17/2007 10:15PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1085 G Van Doren 02/17/2007 10:31PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1154 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 11:59AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1266 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 11:56AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1138 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 09:18AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1255 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 03:33PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1125 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 10:03AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1113 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 10:27AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 963 greggorbett 02/18/2007 08:21AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1219 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 10:40AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1134 PMK140 02/18/2007 10:59AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1247 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 11:38AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1129 cda 02/18/2007 03:21PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1187 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 01:48PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1155 PMK140 02/18/2007 03:14PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1157 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 04:02PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1481 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 04:12PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1091 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 05:21PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1189 Gerald Hurst 02/18/2007 05:32PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1122 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 05:58PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1165 Gerald Hurst 02/18/2007 09:30PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1138 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 10:34PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1286 Gerald Hurst 02/18/2007 03:34PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1076 MIJ 02/19/2007 12:21AM
  Re: Congradulations Dr. Hurst 1269 PMK140 02/19/2007 08:15AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1291 PMK140 02/19/2007 08:34AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1185 Jim Mazerat 02/19/2007 10:00AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1166 Gerald Hurst 02/19/2007 10:43AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1230 Jim Mazerat 02/19/2007 11:45AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1102 PMK140 02/19/2007 11:56AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1179 Jim Mazerat 02/19/2007 12:16PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1109 Gerald Hurst 02/19/2007 02:47PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1099 Jim Mazerat 02/19/2007 03:01PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1201 PMK140 02/19/2007 11:51AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1198 Jim Mazerat 02/19/2007 12:20PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1222 G Van Doren 02/20/2007 08:55AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1365 PMK140 02/20/2007 09:07AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1166 Jim Mazerat 02/20/2007 10:02AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1229 G Van Doren 02/20/2007 10:46AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1113 Jim Mazerat 02/20/2007 11:09AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1203 Jim Mazerat 02/19/2007 12:23PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1141 MIJ 02/19/2007 12:25PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1206 MIJ 02/19/2007 12:28PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1100 Jim Mazerat 02/19/2007 12:32PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1240 MIJ 02/19/2007 12:39PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1135 Gerald Hurst 02/19/2007 03:24PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1083 Jim Mazerat 02/19/2007 03:30PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1107 MIJ 02/19/2007 04:00PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1110 Jim Mazerat 02/19/2007 08:29PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1175 firecop5002 02/19/2007 09:28PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1125 Jim Mazerat 02/19/2007 10:01PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1148 PMK140 02/19/2007 11:51PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1201 Jim Mazerat 02/20/2007 10:21AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1232 Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant 02/21/2007 02:00PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1149 G Van Doren 02/20/2007 09:12AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1220 Joseph Carey 02/20/2007 04:39PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1150 Jim Mazerat 02/20/2007 05:39PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1137 G Van Doren 02/20/2007 06:06PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1282 Jim Mazerat 02/20/2007 06:31PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1115 G Van Doren 02/20/2007 08:27PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1123 Jim Mazerat 02/20/2007 10:05PM


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