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Re: Destruction of notes and data
Posted by: Jim Mazerat (IP Logged)
Date: February 16, 2007 07:47PM

This would first insinuate that the distruction of field notes is being done intentionally to hide something from the other side. I more like the presumption of innocence until there is some information obtained to the contrary. If the investigator states that all information is contained in the written report, I take it at face value that he or she is telling the truth. If you are saying you need all this information to conduct a meaningful review, then my question is how do you save the thoughts in my head, they are notes I use in formulating a hypothesis and finally a conclusion. If the person has left something out of the report and does not bring it up in deposition most courts will not let testimony be given on that new information. With this being the case, it does more to hurt his or her cases to leave information out. If the information is detrimental to their side I do not believe they have any requirement to produce information that is not required by law.

By saying they must keep their notes, it seems as if the intention is more to attack the person’s creditability than the facts of the case. If you are withheld as a consultant to the attorney for the purpose of your testimony never being made available to the other side, would that not have the same effect of destroying note with information detrimental to the investigator’s case. If the person was to say he or she destroyed their field notes and that the information in those not was not retained in any form, I believe I would like that to come to the jury in just that form.

A question that was asked once before, if you are working for the prosecution and are not called to testify because you have information that will help the defense, should you tell the defense?

This is not a simple area. There is no black and white area that fits all cases.



Subject Views Written By Posted
  Destruction of notes and data 2624 John J. Lentini, CFEI 02/16/2007 02:30PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1417 Jim Mazerat 02/16/2007 07:47PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1420 firecop5002 02/17/2007 12:51AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1463 G Van Doren 02/17/2007 09:59AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1334 Jim Mazerat 02/17/2007 11:00AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1290 PMK140 02/17/2007 10:32AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1291 Jim Mazerat 02/17/2007 11:14AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1276 PMK140 02/17/2007 11:35AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1360 PMK140 02/17/2007 11:38AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1246 Jim Mazerat 02/17/2007 12:17PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1271 John J. Lentini, CFEI 02/17/2007 07:49PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1189 rjschaal 02/17/2007 11:36PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1277 rjschaal 02/17/2007 11:54PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1300 Jim Mazerat 02/17/2007 12:34PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1264 Jim Mazerat 02/17/2007 12:26PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1310 John J. Lentini, CFEI 02/17/2007 10:12PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1214 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 09:08AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1155 firecop5002 02/18/2007 09:31AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1287 firecop5002 02/18/2007 09:45AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1197 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 09:59AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1174 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 10:00AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1177 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 09:55AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1307 John J. Lentini, CFEI 02/21/2007 12:53AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1233 Gerald Hurst 02/21/2007 01:45AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1099 Jim Mazerat 02/21/2007 09:10AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1262 Jim Mazerat 02/17/2007 01:00PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1348 PMK140 02/17/2007 02:20PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1123 Jim Mazerat 02/17/2007 02:51PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1279 ssklar 02/17/2007 03:05PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1129 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 10:23AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1114 ssklar 02/18/2007 12:17PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1307 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 12:39PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1244 ssklar 02/18/2007 04:27PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1218 Jim Mazerat 02/19/2007 08:57PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1221 ssklar 02/23/2007 04:44PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1203 Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant 02/23/2007 06:37PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1317 PMK140 02/25/2007 09:30AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1089 Jim Mazerat 02/23/2007 07:30PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1231 PMK140 02/25/2007 09:39AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1320 Jim Mazerat 02/25/2007 12:07PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1281 Jim Mazerat 02/25/2007 05:43PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1169 Gerald Hurst 02/25/2007 11:21AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1208 MIJ 02/25/2007 12:02PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1246 Jim Mazerat 02/25/2007 12:27PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1155 MIJ 02/25/2007 02:20PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1152 Jim Mazerat 02/25/2007 12:20PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1148 MIJ 02/25/2007 02:23PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1178 Jim Mazerat 02/25/2007 05:32PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1115 MIJ 02/25/2007 08:20PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1189 Jim Mazerat 02/25/2007 09:36PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1276 MIJ 02/25/2007 10:06PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1314 Jim Mazerat 02/25/2007 11:02PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1124 Jim Mazerat 02/25/2007 11:04PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1086 MIJ 02/25/2007 11:19PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1233 Jim Mazerat 02/25/2007 11:54PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1245 PMK140 02/17/2007 04:46PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1279 SJAvato 02/17/2007 06:25PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1867 MIKE 02/17/2007 07:09PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1323 John J. Lentini, CFEI 02/17/2007 08:01PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1279 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 09:26AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1108 Gerald Hurst 02/18/2007 01:14PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1217 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 01:27PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1146 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 01:31PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1157 Gerald Hurst 02/18/2007 03:15PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1266 Hunter B. (Terry) Lacy 02/18/2007 03:31PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1348 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 03:50PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1201 Hunter B. (Terry) Lacy 02/18/2007 04:03PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1117 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 04:21PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1255 PMK140 02/18/2007 07:13PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1156 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 08:24PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1180 PMK140 02/18/2007 08:35PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1269 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 09:16PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1170 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 03:34PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1228 Hunter B. (Terry) Lacy 02/18/2007 03:47PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1161 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 03:59PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1246 Hunter B. (Terry) Lacy 02/18/2007 04:18PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1168 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 04:22PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1227 John J. Lentini, CFEI 02/19/2007 12:16AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1107 Jim Mazerat 02/19/2007 10:03AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1786 Jim Mazerat 02/19/2007 11:16AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1145 PMK140 02/17/2007 09:16PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1243 Anthony Tester 02/17/2007 09:56PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1133 firecop5002 02/17/2007 10:12PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1161 firecop5002 02/17/2007 10:15PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1086 G Van Doren 02/17/2007 10:31PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1156 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 11:59AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1266 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 11:56AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1139 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 09:18AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1256 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 03:33PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1126 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 10:03AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1114 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 10:27AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 966 greggorbett 02/18/2007 08:21AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1221 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 10:40AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1135 PMK140 02/18/2007 10:59AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1248 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 11:38AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1130 cda 02/18/2007 03:21PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1188 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 01:48PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1156 PMK140 02/18/2007 03:14PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1159 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 04:02PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1482 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 04:12PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1092 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 05:21PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1190 Gerald Hurst 02/18/2007 05:32PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1125 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 05:58PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1167 Gerald Hurst 02/18/2007 09:30PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1139 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 10:34PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1287 Gerald Hurst 02/18/2007 03:34PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1078 MIJ 02/19/2007 12:21AM
  Re: Congradulations Dr. Hurst 1271 PMK140 02/19/2007 08:15AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1292 PMK140 02/19/2007 08:34AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1186 Jim Mazerat 02/19/2007 10:00AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1167 Gerald Hurst 02/19/2007 10:43AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1233 Jim Mazerat 02/19/2007 11:45AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1103 PMK140 02/19/2007 11:56AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1180 Jim Mazerat 02/19/2007 12:16PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1110 Gerald Hurst 02/19/2007 02:47PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1101 Jim Mazerat 02/19/2007 03:01PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1204 PMK140 02/19/2007 11:51AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1199 Jim Mazerat 02/19/2007 12:20PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1224 G Van Doren 02/20/2007 08:55AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1366 PMK140 02/20/2007 09:07AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1167 Jim Mazerat 02/20/2007 10:02AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1230 G Van Doren 02/20/2007 10:46AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1114 Jim Mazerat 02/20/2007 11:09AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1204 Jim Mazerat 02/19/2007 12:23PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1142 MIJ 02/19/2007 12:25PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1209 MIJ 02/19/2007 12:28PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1102 Jim Mazerat 02/19/2007 12:32PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1242 MIJ 02/19/2007 12:39PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1137 Gerald Hurst 02/19/2007 03:24PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1084 Jim Mazerat 02/19/2007 03:30PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1108 MIJ 02/19/2007 04:00PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1111 Jim Mazerat 02/19/2007 08:29PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1176 firecop5002 02/19/2007 09:28PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1125 Jim Mazerat 02/19/2007 10:01PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1149 PMK140 02/19/2007 11:51PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1202 Jim Mazerat 02/20/2007 10:21AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1234 Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant 02/21/2007 02:00PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1153 G Van Doren 02/20/2007 09:12AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1221 Joseph Carey 02/20/2007 04:39PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1151 Jim Mazerat 02/20/2007 05:39PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1138 G Van Doren 02/20/2007 06:06PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1283 Jim Mazerat 02/20/2007 06:31PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1116 G Van Doren 02/20/2007 08:27PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1125 Jim Mazerat 02/20/2007 10:05PM


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