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Re: Destruction of notes and data
Posted by: Jim Mazerat (IP Logged)
Date: February 21, 2007 09:10AM

John:

Where I do not disagree with your reasoning, as I said I just do not have a problem either way. I think you, Pat and others brought up some excellent points to be considered, but as I said, I believe this is a personal decision to be made by the individual. If he tells me that all of what notes were taken are in the report, I will give him the benefit of the doubt that it is all there. I can understand with some of the cases you have been involved with that the trusting does become an issue, and maybe with the same factors I to would be a little short on trust.

I agree with you as to the legal issue and feel the attorneys will continue to argue this point to where one side has the upper hand over the other. In reviewing case and policies of different organizations it does not appear this has yet become a problem in court. In one of the may cases I was looking at the judge instructed the opposing attorney that the only question that could be asked is was there original notes taken and what happen to the notes. At that point the judge instructed the jury that this is not an uncommon method and there should be not thought that the person did something wrong by using this method.

As I said before this is a personal issue to where the person must look at all the possibilities that will result as to his actions and then make a decision as to how this is to be handled.



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  Destruction of notes and data 2622 John J. Lentini, CFEI 02/16/2007 02:30PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1417 Jim Mazerat 02/16/2007 07:47PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1419 firecop5002 02/17/2007 12:51AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1462 G Van Doren 02/17/2007 09:59AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1333 Jim Mazerat 02/17/2007 11:00AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1290 PMK140 02/17/2007 10:32AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1290 Jim Mazerat 02/17/2007 11:14AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1275 PMK140 02/17/2007 11:35AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1359 PMK140 02/17/2007 11:38AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1245 Jim Mazerat 02/17/2007 12:17PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1270 John J. Lentini, CFEI 02/17/2007 07:49PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1188 rjschaal 02/17/2007 11:36PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1275 rjschaal 02/17/2007 11:54PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1299 Jim Mazerat 02/17/2007 12:34PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1263 Jim Mazerat 02/17/2007 12:26PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1309 John J. Lentini, CFEI 02/17/2007 10:12PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1213 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 09:08AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1154 firecop5002 02/18/2007 09:31AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1286 firecop5002 02/18/2007 09:45AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1196 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 09:59AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1173 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 10:00AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1176 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 09:55AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1306 John J. Lentini, CFEI 02/21/2007 12:53AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1233 Gerald Hurst 02/21/2007 01:45AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1098 Jim Mazerat 02/21/2007 09:10AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1261 Jim Mazerat 02/17/2007 01:00PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1348 PMK140 02/17/2007 02:20PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1122 Jim Mazerat 02/17/2007 02:51PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1278 ssklar 02/17/2007 03:05PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1128 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 10:23AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1113 ssklar 02/18/2007 12:17PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1306 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 12:39PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1243 ssklar 02/18/2007 04:27PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1217 Jim Mazerat 02/19/2007 08:57PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1220 ssklar 02/23/2007 04:44PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1203 Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant 02/23/2007 06:37PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1316 PMK140 02/25/2007 09:30AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1088 Jim Mazerat 02/23/2007 07:30PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1230 PMK140 02/25/2007 09:39AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1320 Jim Mazerat 02/25/2007 12:07PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1280 Jim Mazerat 02/25/2007 05:43PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1168 Gerald Hurst 02/25/2007 11:21AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1207 MIJ 02/25/2007 12:02PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1246 Jim Mazerat 02/25/2007 12:27PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1154 MIJ 02/25/2007 02:20PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1151 Jim Mazerat 02/25/2007 12:20PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1148 MIJ 02/25/2007 02:23PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1177 Jim Mazerat 02/25/2007 05:32PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1114 MIJ 02/25/2007 08:20PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1188 Jim Mazerat 02/25/2007 09:36PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1275 MIJ 02/25/2007 10:06PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1313 Jim Mazerat 02/25/2007 11:02PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1124 Jim Mazerat 02/25/2007 11:04PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1085 MIJ 02/25/2007 11:19PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1232 Jim Mazerat 02/25/2007 11:54PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1244 PMK140 02/17/2007 04:46PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1278 SJAvato 02/17/2007 06:25PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1865 MIKE 02/17/2007 07:09PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1322 John J. Lentini, CFEI 02/17/2007 08:01PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1278 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 09:26AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1107 Gerald Hurst 02/18/2007 01:14PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1216 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 01:27PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1145 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 01:31PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1156 Gerald Hurst 02/18/2007 03:15PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1266 Hunter B. (Terry) Lacy 02/18/2007 03:31PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1348 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 03:50PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1201 Hunter B. (Terry) Lacy 02/18/2007 04:03PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1116 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 04:21PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1254 PMK140 02/18/2007 07:13PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1155 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 08:24PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1180 PMK140 02/18/2007 08:35PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1268 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 09:16PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1169 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 03:34PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1227 Hunter B. (Terry) Lacy 02/18/2007 03:47PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1161 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 03:59PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1245 Hunter B. (Terry) Lacy 02/18/2007 04:18PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1167 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 04:22PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1226 John J. Lentini, CFEI 02/19/2007 12:16AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1106 Jim Mazerat 02/19/2007 10:03AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1785 Jim Mazerat 02/19/2007 11:16AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1144 PMK140 02/17/2007 09:16PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1242 Anthony Tester 02/17/2007 09:56PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1132 firecop5002 02/17/2007 10:12PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1160 firecop5002 02/17/2007 10:15PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1085 G Van Doren 02/17/2007 10:31PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1155 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 11:59AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1266 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 11:56AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1139 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 09:18AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1255 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 03:33PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1126 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 10:03AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1113 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 10:27AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 964 greggorbett 02/18/2007 08:21AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1220 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 10:40AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1134 PMK140 02/18/2007 10:59AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1248 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 11:38AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1129 cda 02/18/2007 03:21PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1187 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 01:48PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1155 PMK140 02/18/2007 03:14PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1159 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 04:02PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1481 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 04:12PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1091 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 05:21PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1189 Gerald Hurst 02/18/2007 05:32PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1124 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 05:58PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1166 Gerald Hurst 02/18/2007 09:30PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1138 Jim Mazerat 02/18/2007 10:34PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1286 Gerald Hurst 02/18/2007 03:34PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1077 MIJ 02/19/2007 12:21AM
  Re: Congradulations Dr. Hurst 1270 PMK140 02/19/2007 08:15AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1292 PMK140 02/19/2007 08:34AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1186 Jim Mazerat 02/19/2007 10:00AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1166 Gerald Hurst 02/19/2007 10:43AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1232 Jim Mazerat 02/19/2007 11:45AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1103 PMK140 02/19/2007 11:56AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1179 Jim Mazerat 02/19/2007 12:16PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1109 Gerald Hurst 02/19/2007 02:47PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1101 Jim Mazerat 02/19/2007 03:01PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1203 PMK140 02/19/2007 11:51AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1198 Jim Mazerat 02/19/2007 12:20PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1223 G Van Doren 02/20/2007 08:55AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1365 PMK140 02/20/2007 09:07AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1166 Jim Mazerat 02/20/2007 10:02AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1229 G Van Doren 02/20/2007 10:46AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1113 Jim Mazerat 02/20/2007 11:09AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1204 Jim Mazerat 02/19/2007 12:23PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1141 MIJ 02/19/2007 12:25PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1209 MIJ 02/19/2007 12:28PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1102 Jim Mazerat 02/19/2007 12:32PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1241 MIJ 02/19/2007 12:39PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1136 Gerald Hurst 02/19/2007 03:24PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1084 Jim Mazerat 02/19/2007 03:30PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1107 MIJ 02/19/2007 04:00PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1111 Jim Mazerat 02/19/2007 08:29PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1175 firecop5002 02/19/2007 09:28PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1125 Jim Mazerat 02/19/2007 10:01PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1148 PMK140 02/19/2007 11:51PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1201 Jim Mazerat 02/20/2007 10:21AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1233 Chris Bloom, CJBFireConsultant 02/21/2007 02:00PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data -921 LEGAL CHAPTER REFERENCES 1152 G Van Doren 02/20/2007 09:12AM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1220 Joseph Carey 02/20/2007 04:39PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1150 Jim Mazerat 02/20/2007 05:39PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1137 G Van Doren 02/20/2007 06:06PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1282 Jim Mazerat 02/20/2007 06:31PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1115 G Van Doren 02/20/2007 08:27PM
  Re: Destruction of notes and data 1124 Jim Mazerat 02/20/2007 10:05PM


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